Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

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Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Hah - no, I’m not actually.

It’s something I like in footballers though - when they’re loyal to their boyhood club and stay through their careers - do I can’t begrudge it when I see it.

Happens so rarely these days that whenever you do see it I can’t help but feel a respect for the players that manage their careers that way - particularly at less heralded Clubs.

Phillips would be good for us, but he’s far from the only (or the best) option for a player in that role, so if he decides to stay out of loyalty to Leeds, and we move on to better - I’d be happy with that outcome.
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ah right fair play in your opinion. While romantic as it sounds though, if he wants to play champions league football and fight and hopefully collect trophies then he needs to move as Leeds wont be doing anything close to that for years to come? It should ram it home to him that he could have been facing championship football next season and if the best manager in the world who has just won the premier league again wants you, you can play with much better players and still probably take part in 30-40 games a season with no doubt a nice pay rise then from a career point of view you take it.
 
Just by way of comparison, the last five clubs to finish 17th in the league are Burnley, Aston Villa, Brighton, Southampton, and Watford. If he wishes to remain with his boyhood club, fair enough, but the reality is that unless Leeds can attract major investment, then it’s difficult to see them winning silverware in the next five years and it will be challenging for them to break out of the pack and claim a European spot.
 
richards30 said:
ah right fair play in your opinion. While romantic as it sounds though, if he wants to play champions league football and fight and hopefully collect trophies then he needs to move as Leeds wont be doing anything close to that for years to come? It should ram it home to him that he could have been facing championship football next season and if the best manager in the world who has just won the premier league again wants you, you can play with much better players and still probably take part in 30-40 games a season with no doubt a nice pay rise then from a career point of view you take it.
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Oh yeah - I get all that mate. From all logical perspectives, he’d be daft not to join us - and as a City fan I hope we get him if he’s the player Pep wants for that position.

But if he decides to turn us down to stay at Leeds for the rest of his career, I won’t really be able to begrudge him for it.
 
Moody23 said:
Yes I remember seeing the Leeds united amazon documentary, he seemed like a very down to earth and humble guy. Bielsa praised him a number of times on the documentary for being selfless hardworking and a great teammate.

KP also has a great story, he had to overcome a lot as a kid. His dad was in prison and his mom could just made ends meet. He had to get the free lunches at school and got made fun of. Apparently he is Leeds through and through . I would love to have him at city but not sure if he will leave Leeds. I remember he was getting attention from villa and Liverpool but he choose to stay with Leeds and being them back to the prem
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If that's the case then you cant fault his morals.
 
Gumzy97 said:
Seen it all now, this is 100% going like the Grealish transfer. Some Leeds fan accounts going with the exact same angle as Villa fans last year. Such as

“Why move to a team already at the top? Surely it would be more of an achievement to get LUFC (the team that holds his heart) from the bottom to the top instead of being a bench warmer for MC”
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Well they're right about one thing - it definitely would be more of an achievement to get Leeds to win the league.
 
No idea why people are so rabid regarding this transfer. Reliable people on here have got the wiff that City are closing in on Phillips. No reports outside of here has stated a fee since OTHER teams (outside CL places) where interested.

Imo it points to a clause just like Jacks last summer.
 
People saying "he might stay at Leeds because he's a Leeds lad" are deluding themselves.

Steve Bull was a long time ago, before the Premier league, Champions league, Sky Television, Image Rights and Global Broadcasting. This simple does not happen any more for reasons I don't need to outline.

All it is ever about for any top class young pro is when they move and where to, not "if". Forget it.
 
I would be surprised if agents inserted only one clause in a contract. A release clause if relegated would be obvious for any player, as, too, would be a clause allowing the player to speak to/leave for a team playing Champions League football.
 
Gabriel said:
I would be surprised if agents inserted only one clause in a contract. A release clause if relegated would be obvious for any player, as, too, would be a clause allowing the player to speak to/leave for a team playing Champions League football.
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And no way Stellar would be involved if there wasnt a move coming.
 
DeBlueLou said:
And no way Stellar would be involved if there wasnt a move coming.
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True. I don’t think we’ll get him cheaply, but given the extra length of service we got from Fernandinho and the fact that we appear to have identified him as the one we want, then I’m sure it will be a fair price/deal for all parties.
 
King Pablo said:
No offense taken.

A lot of talk of Raphinha having a release clause to DeBlueLou not long ago.

€25mil if relegated and €70mil if not I think it was. This was reported by many reliable sources like Fabrizio Romano for ages.

Not true, our local Journalists always said it wasn't true and turned out they were correct and eventually it became public knowledge, lots of backtracking and our DOF then confirmed it.

Our reliable local Journalist has said the same regarding KP, no release clause exists only a relegation clause so can only go on someone whose always been reliable for us.

And even if there was a release clause it would need to be more than £55mil because Kalvin's agent Kevin Sharp confirmed we rejected a club record offer for him from West Ham in January which was for an amount around the £50-55mil mark.

www.google.co.uk

Phillips pushing for new Leeds contract after West Ham have £55m bid rejected

KALVIN PHILLIPS is pushing for a new deal from Leeds after the club knocked back three bids from West Ham last month. David Moyes was desperate to land the England ace in January and the Hammers of…
www.google.co.uk www.google.co.uk

So either way you would need to pay around the £60mil mark.

I am not itk so maybe I am wrong and your reliable sources on here are right, it's possible but highly unlikely based on the evidence I'd say.
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The bit in bold is interesting.

It's eerily similar to the Grealish stuff last Summer - Villa saying there wasn't a release clause (to the point of not even telling City apparently!!) - and certain journalists being adamant there was which turned out to be true.

I'm sure it was a 'Champions League club' release clause too which is probably more popular than we realise. If it's the same for Phillips then that would explain being able to turn down the massive West Ham bid from January too.

We'll see what happens. I can't see us spending £60m for Phillips given he wouldn't be an automatic starter in the team and that, believe it or not, is a lot of money to City given it'd put him in the top 5 most expensive players in our history.

It'll be interesting to see. If there's a release clause and it's as low as being leaked then we love a release clause and it's a bargain. If not, it won't happen...IMO.
 
skillman said:
The bit in bold is interesting.

It's eerily similar to the Grealish stuff last Summer - Villa saying there wasn't a release clause (to the point of not even telling City apparently!!) - and certain journalists being adamant there was which turned out to be true.

We'll see what happens. I can't see us spending £60m for Phillips because he wouldn't be an automatic starter in the team and that, believe it or not, is a lot of money to City given it'd put him in the top 5 most expensive players in our history.

It'll be interesting to see. If there's a release clause and it's as low as being leaked then we love a release clause and it's a bargain. If not, it won't happen...IMO.
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It's almost identical so far... It was also his agency (Stellar) that leaked the clause... What's different this time? Someone is leaking and talking about another clause... wonder who... ;)
 
Gabriel said:
True. I don’t think we’ll get him cheaply, but given the extra length of service we got from Fernandinho and the fact that we appear to have identified him as the one we want, then I’m sure it will be a fair price/deal for all parties.
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Stellar leaked Jacks "hidden" clause that no journo knew about... What's saying they won't do the same this time? If it is the same situation, which i looks like thus far.
 
mj1991 said:
Who will pay for Bernardo Silva 90-100M£? Especially not from England? Serious question. Because people are talking nonstop how he is unhappy and wants to leave while nobody in the world would pay 90-100m£ for him.
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He didn’t look unhappy the other day.
 
mj1991 said:
Awful suggestions. We are losers in each of these deals. Bernardo is better than FDJ in terms of pressing and many things off the ball, Felix is not a midfielder. We are extremely short in midfield when we would be able to make that kind of deal. Extremely, extremely stupid suggestions to swap Bernardo with any of these players. It would be a disaster. I don't know why many people here are in love with players like Felix or Frenkie De Jong. Neat, tidy players with zero personality and character. Bernardo has to stay. Anyway, City has said Barca that they will not swap Bernardo with FDJ, in terms of Felix it would be a masterpiece of the stupidity to swap midfielder on a false 9 and stay extremely short in terms of midfield.
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I don't want Bernardo to leave at any price but the fact remains that he has issues about living here and IF he wants out, who is going to pay the price?
 
mj1991 said:
Who will pay for Bernardo Silva 90-100M£? Especially not from England? Serious question. Because people are talking nonstop how he is unhappy and wants to leave while nobody in the world would pay 90-100m£ for him.
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Bernardo being unhappy was last summers talk and it was because of mainly the pandemic.

The reports as of late are saying hes very happy and hes got his GF here now... And its reported hes closer to extending than leaving. Old news that he's unhappy.
 
He is an average Premier League midfielder.
Not against it though as he would bring some good defensive and combative qualities to our midfield. Also there's a decent technical player in there(beats press well and is a good long passer) so definitely something for Pep to work with.
 
01cravend said:
He is an average Premier League midfielder.
Not against it though as he would bring some good defensive and combative qualities to our midfield. Also there's a decent technical player in there(beats press well and is a good long passer) so definitely something for Pep to work with.
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You say he's average yet proceed to lay forward why he isn't average, haha! :)
 
01cravend said:
Goal and assist output - terrible
Chance creation - 1 every 2 games the lowest of any Leeds mid, same rate as Ruben Dias a cb.
Pace - none
Aerial ability - comparable numbers to little B.Silva
Injury record - getting worse
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He's a defensive mid, for god's sake... Pace, hes actually very mobile. Injury record is actually good as the ones hes got arent reoccuring. Compare his arieal ability to Fernas.

You arguments aren't solid here, mate.
 
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