It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

[Tugay One Cup]

Yep, all the other self entitled slapped arses who’ve played too much Soccer Tycoon feel the same I reckon.

NO !! Only you!!!
Sorry and some silly person from Brazil for some fucking daft reason !!!!!

Can I just add my "tuppence worth" and say that you are clueless !!!

Bad whiff…

You clearly haven’t watched Cucurella play this season, have you?

Come on guys, you don't have to get arsey with someone just because they don't rate a couple of players we're being linked with.

Pretty much nobody here wanted Phillips but the links started a while ago so I guess we're supposed to act like it's a brilliant move?

And Cucurella is decent enough but, again, there was no clamour for him until we started getting linked with him and now every time I see his name in a thread he seems to be getting closer and closer to prime Ashley Cole and Roberto Carlos rolled into one.

It happened last summer as well, when people had the temerity to say that Jack Grealish wasn't worth £100m and wasn't going to score 20+ goals while Pep turned him into hairy Zidane.

Pretty much the only reason why I'm saying this is because I don't want to read through pages and pages of utter shite on their performance threads next season where half of the posters say they knew they were shit and refuse to give them credit for anything, closely followed by people saying again and again and again and again that we can't judge them until their second season.

 

[Coatigan]

Anybody else underwhelmed with us linked with Phillips and a LB from Brighton

Not me. Don't know enough to rate them or think they aren't good enough, so if there is any truth to the links, happy to trust the club.

Phillips looked good at the Euros btw, not sure if he is different at Leeds or if people are underwhelmed by him being at Leeds, but he seemed a good player a year ago.

 

[doobyedoobye]

I would say that adding a top level DM that knows the Prem and adding a top level LB that knows the Prem plus Haaland would be an absolutely brilliant window (depending on the departures....)

 

[DeBlueLou]

I would say that adding a top level DM that knows the Prem and adding a top level LB that knows the Prem plus Haaland would be an absolutely brilliant window (depending on the departures....)

Forgetting our Argentinian wonder kid too

 

[doobyedoobye]

Forgetting our Argentinian wonder kid too

Ah yes! There's an argument that it would be the clubs greatest ever window..

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Come on guys, you don't have to get arsey with someone just because they don't rate a couple of players we're being linked with.

Pretty much nobody here wanted Phillips but the links started a while ago so I guess we're supposed to act like it's a brilliant move?

And Cucurella is decent enough but, again, there was no clamour for him until we started getting linked with him and now every time I see his name in a thread he seems to be getting closer and closer to prime Ashley Cole and Roberto Carlos rolled into one.

It happened last summer as well, when people had the temerity to say that Jack Grealish wasn't worth £100m and wasn't going to score 20+ goals while Pep turned him into hairy Zidane.

Pretty much the only reason why I'm saying this is because I don't want to read through pages and pages of utter shite on their performance threads next season where half of the posters say they knew they were shit and refuse to give them credit for anything, closely followed by people saying again and again and again and again that we can't judge them until their second season.

I think you miss out the gist of the comments being referred to. “Surely we should be doing better than going for Leeds and Brighton players” being the main issue for me. De Bruyne (Wolfsburg) and Silva (Valencia) have probably been our best players over the last decade but arrive from “top teams”. It’s arrogant too.

For the first time since supporting City (some 50 years) I feel like my opinion takes second place to Pep and the rest of the team at the club to make a better decision than me. That isn’t to say Pep doesn’t make mistakes. All managers make mistakes but a handful get to earn the right to make those mistakes.

Following on from that, the club have come a long way since the days of Keith Curle trudging off the pitch saying “that should do it” to a teammate in his bid to get Brian Horton sacked. None of the team have shockers on purpose. It just happens. Therefore the best cure is not read those pages of drivel after bad performances. I genuinely congratulate you for doing so. I can only imagine what it was like reading about Mahrez after the penalty miss v West Ham. You must have an iron constitution. It is difficult but I try not to go in on City players after a defeat.

Finally, well done on earning a like from BrazilianBlue Gus.

 

[Coatigan]

Worth noting, should we sign both Phillips and Cucurella, someone would have to leave.

We currently have one space, with Haaland and Alvarez (who has already been added to the squad list on the official website) coming in. Going by the CL quota which the club usually builds the squad to.

Might be Carson, might be Jesus, might be anyone, chances are they'd all get replaced regardless. And no Bazunu wouldn't affect that either, his status is the same as Carson's.

 

[Coatigan]

Come on guys, you don't have to get arsey with someone just because they don't rate a couple of players we're being linked with.

Pretty much nobody here wanted Phillips but the links started a while ago so I guess we're supposed to act like it's a brilliant move?

And Cucurella is decent enough but, again, there was no clamour for him until we started getting linked with him and now every time I see his name in a thread he seems to be getting closer and closer to prime Ashley Cole and Roberto Carlos rolled into one.

It happened last summer as well, when people had the temerity to say that Jack Grealish wasn't worth £100m and wasn't going to score 20+ goals while Pep turned him into hairy Zidane.

Pretty much the only reason why I'm saying this is because I don't want to read through pages and pages of utter shite on their performance threads next season where half of the posters say they knew they were shit and refuse to give them credit for anything, closely followed by people saying again and again and again and again that we can't judge them until their second season.

That last one you quote is Hardly arsey is it. Probably true with a good 90% posters here, myself included.

 

[decmancity]

Worth noting, should we sign both Phillips and Cucurella, someone would have to leave.

We currently have one space, with Haaland and Alvarez (who has already been added to the squad list on the ifficial website btw) coming in. Going by the CL quota which the club usually builds the squad to.

Might be Carson, might be Jesus, might be anyone, chances are they'd all get replaced regardless. And no Bazunu wouldn't affect that either, his status is the same as Carson's.

This was what we submitted for the CL this year;

Nathan Ake
Joao Cancelo
Scott Carson
Kevin De Bruyne
Ederson
Ruben Dias
Jack Grealish
Ilkay Gundogan
Rodrigo
Gabriel Jesus
Aymeric Laporte
Romeo Lavia
Riyad Mahrez
Bernardo Silva
Fernandinho
Zack Steffen
Raheem Sterling
John Stones
Ferran Torres
Kyle Walker
Oleksandr Zinchenko

So take out Fernandinho and Ferran Torres for Haaland and Alvarez. I presume Carson will stick around but if he doesn't then we will definitely bring in a keeper so that spot would have to stay open.

Should we get Phillips then surely he would replace Lavia (Loan move or B list?)

 

[foggy1974]

Come on guys, you don't have to get arsey with someone just because they don't rate a couple of players we're being linked with.

Pretty much nobody here wanted Phillips but the links started a while ago so I guess we're supposed to act like it's a brilliant move?

And Cucurella is decent enough but, again, there was no clamour for him until we started getting linked with him and now every time I see his name in a thread he seems to be getting closer and closer to prime Ashley Cole and Roberto Carlos rolled into one.

It happened last summer as well, when people had the temerity to say that Jack Grealish wasn't worth £100m and wasn't going to score 20+ goals while Pep turned him into hairy Zidane.

Pretty much the only reason why I'm saying this is because I don't want to read through pages and pages of utter shite on their performance threads next season where half of the posters say they knew they were shit and refuse to give them credit for anything, closely followed by people saying again and again and again and again that we can't judge them until their second season.

Its not a case of not rating the players, its who they play for. If we were attempting Cucerella from Barca for 70m would it be a different story, similar if Phillips wasn't English.

 

[pudge]

He is the best left back we have, and by quite some distance

I wholeheartedly and respectfully disagree.

Which is why I'd rather keep Zinchenko and add a left back, keep Walker and Cancelo (in that pecking order) at right back.

Not sell Zinchenko

 

[BillyShears]

Come on guys, you don't have to get arsey with someone just because they don't rate a couple of players we're being linked with.

Pretty much nobody here wanted Phillips but the links started a while ago so I guess we're supposed to act like it's a brilliant move?

And Cucurella is decent enough but, again, there was no clamour for him until we started getting linked with him and now every time I see his name in a thread he seems to be getting closer and closer to prime Ashley Cole and Roberto Carlos rolled into one.

It happened last summer as well, when people had the temerity to say that Jack Grealish wasn't worth £100m and wasn't going to score 20+ goals while Pep turned him into hairy Zidane.

Pretty much the only reason why I'm saying this is because I don't want to read through pages and pages of utter shite on their performance threads next season where half of the posters say they knew they were shit and refuse to give them credit for anything, closely followed by people saying again and again and again and again that we can't judge them until their second season.

There's a tendency to underrate players who are already in the league, and overrate foreign signings on Bluemoon. I'm not saying that this is what you're doing with Phillips and Cucurella, but I do think it's a touch unfair to say "no one wanted Phillips until the links started" and same with Cucurella. If you'd asked me a month ago who were the two players inside the league that I'd take this summer, those two would've been close to the top of my list.

Grealish was the exception that proves the rule last summer if I'm honest. Most people were dazzled by his profile and the fact he's a 'lad'. In general, from Walker to Stones to Raheem. Players we went after from inside the league have always underwhelmed Bluemoon. Just look at the absolute vitriol that Kane got from large swathes of this forum (some of still ongoing for some utterly bizarre reason).

Phillips and Cucurella will both turn out to be top signings IMO. I also think they won't need a season of transition as they're both coming from coaches who play very intense positional play football.

 

[Coatigan]

This was what we submitted for the CL this year;

Nathan Ake
Joao Cancelo
Scott Carson
Kevin De Bruyne
Ederson
Ruben Dias
Jack Grealish
Ilkay Gundogan
Rodrigo
Gabriel Jesus
Aymeric Laporte
Romeo Lavia
Riyad Mahrez
Bernardo Silva
Fernandinho
Zack Steffen
Raheem Sterling
John Stones
Ferran Torres
Kyle Walker
Oleksandr Zinchenko

So take out Fernandinho and Ferran Torres for Haaland and Alvarez. I presume Carson will stick around but if he doesn't then we will definitely bring in a keeper so that spot would have to stay open.

Should we get Phillips then surely he would replace Lavia (Loan move or B list?)

That is last season's squad, I was going by this season's. Although the end result is the same. I wasn't including Lavia, who only came in once Mendy's spot appeared, and I Think this year will count toward the B list, didn't last season. I'm also not including Kayky who took Torres' spot in january.

Regardless, this season we have (excluding club trained and B-list players like Foden Palmer Lavia) 14 NhG and 6 HG, which is effecticely 16NhG and 4Hg. So currently, 1 space, regardless of whether they are HG or not. One has to leave for two to come in.

I agree, if Carson leaves, he will be replaced and I seriously doubt there is anyone club trained that can take that place. It is a shame Bazunu's loans stop him counting as CT, which maybe would have allowed him to replace Steffen at some poibt if he was good enough. If Jesus leaves I still think he will be replaced. I know I know Palmer is amazing and can replace anyone, I do think he will get more minutes, but not as a direct swap for a first team player. Although it Would be nice, admittedly.

 

[Semper aggressus]

Surely signing players from Brighton and Leeds is a good thing, we’re just missing out the middle man where they first go somewhere like Spurs/Everton then we end up paying four times what we could have got them for a year or two earlier!

It’s good scouting and planning in my opinion, particularly as we need a stronger squad. Playing for a weaker team doesn’t make them shit; didn’t Liverpool get Robertson from Hull, and Mané from Southampton?

I think Phillips and Cucurella would be very decent signings.

 

[DeBlueLou]

Worth noting, should we sign both Phillips and Cucurella, someone would have to leave.

We currently have one space, with Haaland and Alvarez (who has already been added to the squad list on the official website) coming in. Going by the CL quota which the club usually builds the squad to.

Might be Carson, might be Jesus, might be anyone, chances are they'd all get replaced regardless. And no Bazunu wouldn't affect that either, his status is the same as Carson's.

Jesus is. And that is all that is needed to have all five. Haaland replaces Aguero, Alvarez Ferran/Jesus, Cucurella Mendy, Phillips Fernandinho.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

In general, from Walker to Stones to Raheem. Players we went after from inside the league have always underwhelmed Bluemoon.

This is a fair point. I'll admit I wasn't a fan of Kyle Walker before he joined but maybe that's because I'd spent so long "hating" him for Spurs.

I hope you're right, for what it's worth, but I totally understand why some would be underwhelmed with the links. I guess it's the same way some people felt when we signed Ake, not that I agreed with them.

 

[DeBlueLou]

There's a tendency to underrate players who are already in the league, and overrate foreign signings on Bluemoon. I'm not saying that this is what you're doing with Phillips and Cucurella, but I do think it's a touch unfair to say "no one wanted Phillips until the links started" and same with Cucurella. If you'd asked me a month ago who were the two players inside the league that I'd take this summer, those two would've been close to the top of my list.

Grealish was the exception that proves the rule last summer if I'm honest. Most people were dazzled by his profile and the fact he's a 'lad'. In general, from Walker to Stones to Raheem. Players we went after from inside the league have always underwhelmed Bluemoon. Just look at the absolute vitriol that Kane got from large swathes of this forum (some of still ongoing for some utterly bizarre reason).

Phillips and Cucurella will both turn out to be top signings IMO. I also think they won't need a season of transition as they're both coming from coaches who play very intense positional play football.

Spot on! We have the spots for all four signings and we have five subs next season. We don’t have to sell anyone and usually these players from lower team boom under Pep

 

[domalino]

I wholeheartedly and respectfully disagree.

Which is why I'd rather keep Zinchenko and add a left back, keep Walker and Cancelo (in that pecking order) at right back.

Not sell Zinchenko

I genuinely think if a real left back like Cucurella arrives then we will never see Cancelo play LB regularly again.

There is a massive problem with having him as an “inside left back” which is that he just pushes Grealish or Foden onto the touch line where they see almost nothing of the ball and play a role that doesn’t suit them.

When a proper LB comes in, he will be on the outside and it will be world class attacking midfielders taking up those positions around the box and people will see they are much more effective than Cancelo.

 

[Coatigan]

Jesus is. And that is all that is needed to have all five. Haaland replaces Aguero, Alvarez Ferran/Jesus, Cucurella Mendy, Phillips Fernandinho.

Alvarez replacing both jesus and ferran is a pretty big and bold assumption. I disagree but happy to see it happen.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Finally, well done on earning a like from BrazilianBlue Gus.