Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

[DeBlueLou]

pretty sure Cucurella is agreed and in the final stages, everything seems to be pointing in that direction

Massive if true!

 

[decmancity]

No just no he is not an upgrade on what we have.

We don’t have anything. We have Rodri and a 17yr old Lavia.
People do realise we aren’t signing him to replace De Bruyne right?

 

[doobyedoobye]

We don’t have anything. We have Rodri and a 17yr old Lavia.
People do realise we aren’t signing him to replace De Bruyne right?

Exactly. How may other quality DMs are available for sub 50 mil? Plus he' knows the Prem and will not demand a start every game I expect..

 

[jimharri]

No just no he is not an upgrade on what we have.

Which is, if we're talking CDMs? Rodri is first choice, then who? One of the EDS lads? We don't have an abundance of players in that position who are first team ready. If Rodri gets an ACL injury in the first game of the season, who's going to step up and play pretty much a full season? Or do we go down the "square pegs in round holes" again (ie Fern at CB, numerous false 9s). I'd hope that Pep and the board have learned from these previous issues.

 

[OB1]

No one is an upgrade on Rodri…

This may actually be true.

For a CDM, about the only thing missing from Rodri's game is Kyle Walker like speed. I suppose he could be a little bit more aggressive but he is big and strong, technically able, reads the game increasingly well: he has developed that ability to be in the right place at the right time. Also, he can put the ball in the net.

Rodri is on the verge of being the best CDM in the world, he may be there already. Time will tell on that but he is one of the best.

Kalvin Phillips is better at the shuttle run type defnsive work and has a bit more grit. He is also good technically though. I've said before that I think he and Rodri can play together both a double pivot but Rodri has the tools to play as an 8.

With Dinho going and also being very much the wrong side of his peak, Kalvin Phillips would improve the squad if he chooses to come to City. If he doesn't, there will be alternatives but very, very few that are English and it is important to a good number of English players in the squad. Rice is the obvious English alternative but far too expensive.

 

[melrose40yarder]

Which is, if we're talking CDMs? Rodri is first choice, then who? One of the EDS lads? We don't have an abundance of players in that position who are first team ready. If Rodri gets an ACL injury in the first game of the season, who's going to step up and play pretty much a full season? Or do we go down the "square pegs in round holes" again (ie Fern at CB, numerous false 9s). I'd hope that Pep and the board have learned from these previous issues.

Hopefully they have,However im entitled to an opinion and i do not rate Phillips,i am sure we could discuss lots of players and all come up with players we rate and dont rate.

 

[DeBlueLou]

I'd hope that Pep and the board have learned from these previous issues.

I think they have. First off by buying two striker. Second by looking at our weakest areas and recruiting serious players that really would push their competition.

 

[jimharri]

Hopefully they have,However im entitled to an opinion and i do not rate Phillips,i am sure we could discuss lots of players and all come up with players we rate and dont rate.

Did I say you weren't?

 

[Coatigan]

We don’t have anything. We have Rodri and a 17yr old Lavia.
People do realise we aren’t signing him to replace De Bruyne right?

I think many seem to think he is replacing prime Fernandinho. Or maybe he is replacing Frenkie de Jong who has effecrively been our player ever since twitter said Barcelona are were interested in Sterling.

 

[Vester]

Philips alledged release clause was only dependent on relegation, so Leeds would want nearer 40 mil for him, Barca have, already if reports are correct decided to take a loss on DeJong to the tune of £15M so would be available for around £50M.

For me no brainers, philips wouldn't get a look in if these reported figure were true.

You have to take salaries into consideration. Over a 5 year deal, FDJ would most likely cost more than twice as much as Phillips all costs included. Its like when some retarded Rag fans came to the conclusion Varane is/was almost half as cheap as Arsenals signing White last summer, when he will cost them twice as much when you include salaries.

With that said, could FDJ be worth more than twice as much as Phillips? On pure talent alone, perhaps he is. But is it worth spending that amount of money, and more in particular give a KDB/Haaland level salary, on a player thats probably not a given starter in our best midfield 3 (Rodri-Silva-KDB)? Not so certain.

With that said, I can fully understand if some dont rate Phillips and would prefer us to sign someone else. But dont fool yourself thinking the cost for Phillips and FDJ is even remotely similar, just because the transfer fees might not be miles apart.

 

[decmancity]

Feck knows what Phillips has to do with De Jong. Completely different players.

Maybe we should have sacked off Haaland because I've heard that we could have signed Ramsey on a free transfer.

 

[urban genie]

Feck knows what Phillips has to do with De Jong. Completely different players.

Maybe we should have sacked off Haaland because I've heard that we could have signed Ramsey on a free transfer.

De Jong can function as a regista, defensive midfielder, central midfielder, holding midfielder, box-to-box midfielder and centre back.

Phillips is a defensive midfielder with a great passing range


That is what they have to do with each other

 

[decmancity]

De Jong can function as a regista, defensive midfielder, central midfielder, holding midfielder, box-to-box midfielder and centre back.

Phillips is a defensive midfielder with a great passing range


That is what they have to do with each other

You could play Ederson defensive midfield as well if you wanted to.

I don't need some copy and paste football manager terminology. De Jong is not a defensive midfielder end of.

Unless we are losing Bernardo and or Gundogan we won't be signing De Jong. His best attributes are moving forward, not defensive.

 

[L4EV]

Philips alledged release clause was only dependent on relegation, so Leeds would want nearer 40 mil for him, Barca have, already if reports are correct decided to take a loss on DeJong to the tune of £15M so would be available for around £50M.

For me no brainers, philips wouldn't get a look in if these reported figure were true.

We turned down £27m in 2019 when we were in the Championship. Considering English tax he’s at least £60m.

 

[urban genie]

You could play Ederson defensive midfield as well if you wanted to.

I don't need some copy and paste football manager terminology. De Jong is not a defensive midfielder end of.

Unless we are losing Bernardo and or Gundogan we won't be singing De Jong.

It isn't from football mangager, I have not owned a games console since I was 22 and have never played football games anyhiw, this is from any site tgat use analysis o the, thise are the positioned mentioned,I just put all in one sentence to make it quick reading.

Since we knew a we were losing Ferdy only 2 players have been rumoured as a possible replacement DM or DLM thats DeJong and Philips, because you don't see him in that position doesn't mean the club thinks the same.

I have no idea who we are in for to replace ferdy and really am not arsed if we sign either, I will back whoever we sign

However as they have been the 2 mentioned already, they can be discussed together as options on here if people wish, doesn't matter if anyone disagrees on the matter as no one actually knows, but are still free to mention it.

 

[Blue and true]

We turned down £27m in 2019 when we were in the Championship. Considering English tax he’s at least £60m.

There's not a cat in hells chance we're paying that for Phillips. There are better options within that price range.

 

[Keeper!]

No just no he is not an upgrade on what we have.

He is a huge upgrade on a 36 year old Fernandinho,

 

[decmancity]

It isn't from football mangager, I have not owned a games console since I was 22 and have never played football game.

Since we knew a we were losing Ferdy only 2 players have been rumoured as a possible replacement DM or DLM thats DeJong and Philips, because you don't see him in that position doesn't mean the club thinks the same.

I have no idea who we are in for to replace ferdy and really am not arsed if we sign either, I will back whoever we sign

However as they have been the 2 mentioned already, they can be discussed together as options on here if people wish, doesn't matter if anyone disagrees on the matter as no one actually knows, but are still free to mention it.

Not sure how the club can make it any clearer that Phillips is the target unless they put out an official statement themselves. So clearly the club don't see De Jong as that player or he would be signing for us as he is seemingly desperate to and Barca are desperate to raise funds. We would have also shut down all the Phillips rumors which we haven't done.

De Jong only happens if Gundogan left which looks unlikely.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

We turned down £27m in 2019 when we were in the Championship. Considering English tax he’s at least £60m.

Can’t see us going anywhere near £60m for him mate - which is absolutely fine with me.

Good player, but I think he has the potential to be a one club man with Leeds, and that has to be tempting to a genuine Leeds fan like him.

I’d rather we spent less on a better player with no English tax, and saved the budget for a lightning fast winger to replace Sterling/Jesus.

 

[Retro_Citizens]

You could play Ederson defensive midfield as well if you wanted to.

I don't need some copy and paste football manager terminology. De Jong is not a defensive midfielder end of.

Unless we are losing Bernardo and or Gundogan we won't be signing De Jong. His best attributes are moving forward, not defensiv

You could play Ederson defensive midfield as well if you wanted to.

I don't need some copy and paste football manager terminology. De Jong is not a defensive midfielder end of.

Unless we are losing Bernardo and or Gundogan we won't be signing De Jong. His best attributes are moving forward, not defensive.

Silva and gundo not leaving 100% sure. Gundo confirmed it himself and silva wants to stay and might sign a contract extension. De jong to city just doesn't make sense. He is a good player but you are not paying 70 million for a bench warmer. For philips i think it will be a good signing. We need a backup player for rodri but those who are saying philips needs to start over rodri, go watch golf. Tbh i would prefer a more versatile midfielder like neves who is 1 year younger and similar price but philips is good as well