Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

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Eds said:
The report actually states that the HSE counted ...'and even those who climbed over the turnstiles'. I would say that's evidence of ticketless fans inside the stadium. And whilst I accept that the police could have handled it better (although we have to remember the era we were in with fences etc) I cannot accept that the fans had zero blame apportioned to then. If they hadn't turned up in numbers without tickets, if they hadn't been climbing in ticketless then who knows what may have happened.
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Hillsborough has been investigated more than any other tragedy and trying to re-apportion blame based on points that will have been thoroughly reviewed and at odds with the conclusion of numerous independent reports is just wrong. Whilst undoubtedly there was poor behaviour from some at that match like at any other match ever, it has long since been accepted that it was not a contributory factor. The fact that you can't accept that zero blame was apportioned to their fans means that you're wilfully ignoring all the evidence of major failings by SYP and the stadium management who were finally forced to accept full responsibility. There's no shortage of bad behaviour by dippers in lots of other situations where they can be legitimately criticised but you should leave Hillsborough out of it because of the weight of evidence that was amassed that disproves that point.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
could you not easily duplicate the qr code attached to digital tickets?

I’ve got in the etihad using a screenshot of a qr code previously
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The qr code updates about every 10 minutes so you would have to be quick
I'm sure they could also set it to update even more frequently
 
scouseredinpeace said:
Climbing over to escape a dangerous crush.
I know you won’t be convinced and you’ll stick to that view despite the months of forensic inquests that proved otherwise, but when some ask why people fought so hard to clear their names, it’s because this view (your view) had so much traction that it still gets said today.
Stick to the footy, you’ve got a lot to justifiably take the piss with. Maybe leave the Hillsborough stuff to those from Trafford. They enjoyed themselves with that at Anfield a few weeks ago. They must be feeling great about themselves.
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It is impossible to have a sensible debate about Hillsborough despite multiple inquiries, police investigations, and overwhelming proof that South Yorkshire police made a catastrophic mistake on the day and then senior officers conspired to cover up the blunder including fabricating evidence from witnesses. Some people still prefer to believe the false narrative put out by the tabloid media at the time under pressure from politicians. I am just surprised that some City fans (who should know about false press narratives given what has been written about us. Not in any way comparing that with a disaster but just an example of distorted news coverage) still believe what they read in the media.
 
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They got beat in the final and had they won, we would have heard nothing about it.
To hear them whinging about the French officials not being able to control 40-50k fans around the stadium tells you everything. They had less than 20k tickets, so double that were in the vicinity of the stadium by their own admission.
If this was any other British team there would be nothing on the news about it.
 
scouseredinpeace said:
Climbing over to escape a dangerous crush.
I know you won’t be convinced and you’ll stick to that view despite the months of forensic inquests that proved otherwise, but when some ask why people fought so hard to clear their names, it’s because this view (your view) had so much traction that it still gets said today.
Stick to the footy, you’ve got a lot to justifiably take the piss with. Maybe leave the Hillsborough stuff to those from Trafford. They enjoyed themselves with that at Anfield a few weeks ago. They must be feeling great about themselves.
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They climbed over the turnstiles to avoid a crush but then made it worse by creating a bigger crush, no?
 
Stoned Rose said:
The same Real Madrid who have beaten all 3 of us this season?
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Yes, them. The same Real Madrid we played off the park at the Etihad, and which we led against for 182 minutes of a 180 minute tie.

The same RM that lost to that team we'd never heard of in the group stages.
 
In all seriousness. Ric and the Mods. Can we please change the title to something appropriate that includes PL, CL, Quadruple, and treble failures by Liverpool. I'll leave it in your capable hands. Thank you.
 
scouseredinpeace said:
Climbing over to escape a dangerous crush.
I know you won’t be convinced and you’ll stick to that view despite the months of forensic inquests that proved otherwise, but when some ask why people fought so hard to clear their names, it’s because this view (your view) had so much traction that it still gets said today.
Stick to the footy, you’ve got a lot to justifiably take the piss with. Maybe leave the Hillsborough stuff to those from Trafford. They enjoyed themselves with that at Anfield a few weeks ago. They must be feeling great about themselves.
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Not scrolled back so maybe you have already commented but whats your view on what happened saturday night? Being honest.

and also are you a scouse liverpool fan or an out of towner?
 
Bluemoon115 said:


"Playing into the narrative"

NO! FUCK OFF! YOU CUNTS HAVE DONE THIS. ACCEPT THAT YOUR FANBASE ARE A BUNCH OF CUNTS!
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Haha funny

they literally believe their own bullshit.
Take it down because people are accusing us of jibbing and by posting that it proves that we did but we dont want to be actually accused of it.

they are fuckin mental!!!! Weirdo’s
 
Bluearmy said:
Darmanin (French Minister of Interior) gone in on Liverpool fans. 70% of tickets fake!!
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That's an incredible number. Needs investigation on how they got hold of them, were the tickets copies or designed from a leaked template etc? If there's enough pressure, ironically from Liverpool themselves demanding an investigation, then we may find out more from the french as they won't want to be labelled as at fault.

Could be that UEFA's own personnel it their sponsors willingly or unknowingly gave this info to people capable of using it to create the fakes.

It's another example of Liverpool fans going over the top, and likely not being pulled up on it again. They'll wreck a bus to gain a competitive advantage, hack databases, jib in knowing other genuine fans either lose out or are at risk of injury...it's the mindset of the moronic and they've excelled at it for decades
 
Eds said:
They climbed over the turnstiles to avoid a crush but then made it worse by creating a bigger crush, no?
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You’re missing or ignoring some key info. They might well have been caught up in it and may even have died. Because the central pens entrance (the obvious way in) was never closed off, unlike previous years, even when it was clearly overfull 30 mins before kick off in full view of the control room. The year before the entrance tunnel was closed off when it was full, because a competent policeman was in charge. The side pens were half empty in 89. As I’ve already quoted from official sources, the total number in was around or less than the number of tickets sold, so your point makes no sense as you’re saying ticketless caused it, which has categorically been disproven.
 
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