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ganganvince said:
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GALLERY: Beacons lit across the Highlands, Aberdeenshire and Moray to mark start of Queen's Platinum Jubilee celebrations

Beacons have been lit across the Highlands, Aberdeenshire and Moray to celebrate the Queen's Platinum Jubilee. Events across the UK are being held to mark
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Thanks mate, just wondering if individual houses are celebrating like we are. It’s 2/5 houses covered in flags where I am. Might be a good indication of unionism across the UK today.
 
Octavian said:
I’m interested to know, have you got street parties and union flags everywhere like us today? Can’t move for celebration down here.
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If I'm honest, no. There are pockets but nothing like England. Its a shame because she is a remarkable lady who has done a remarkable job. Recent polls up here put support for the monarchy at less than 50%.

I watched yesterday with some sadness as I don't think we will see the like again. I reflected on the values she epitomised throughout her life and wondered what has brought us as a nation to what we are at present. Confused. Directionless and seemingly hell bent on tearing ourselves apart because nobody can be arsed seriously addressing the things that are wrong. Or maybe i'm just a miserable foc.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
If I'm honest, no. There are pockets but nothing like England. Its a shame because she is a remarkable lady who has done a remarkable job. Recent polls up here put support for the monarchy at less than 50%.

I watched yesterday with some sadness as I don't think we will see the like again. I reflected on the values she epitomised throughout her life and wondered what has brought us as a nation to what we are at present. Confused. Directionless and seemingly hell bent on tearing ourselves apart because nobody can be arsed seriously addressing the things that are wrong. Or maybe i'm just a miserable foc.
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My advice is don’t let it get you down and focus on your immediates whatever happens mate. I worry about my family and couldn’t care less for any of the politicians who couldn’t care less about me either.

At least some are celebrating her, if there’s anything wrong with British politics then she’s not it. A younger Liz would have been a far better PM than the likes of Bozo.
 
Octavian said:
My advice is don’t let it get you down and focus on your immediates whatever happens mate. I worry about my family and couldn’t care less for any of the politicians who couldn’t care less about me either.

At least some are celebrating her, if there’s anything wrong with British politics then she’s not it. A younger Liz would have been a far better PM than the likes of Bozo.
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Liked her sky blue frock.
 
blueparrot said:
Selective pictures, there's a lot going on around here.
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Define a lot? There is no way there was anywhere near the rush to bunting down south. I was in Haddington for lunch on the Saturday and overheard one table bemoaning they saw nothing. I work in Edinburgh and didn’t see a thing. I heard the toffs in Morningside had a couple, but they are mostly English. It was a sodden squib up here.
 
Yep, I’m in East Lothian and there was absolutely sod all happening here, kids were even in school on the Thursday (I got the day off, it was ace).

Nearest we got was the primary school saying kids could wear their own clothes and could have a picnic instead of eating in the dinner hall if they wanted. Not many did.

I wouldn’t say it was hostility just a complete lack of being arsed around here. The local town gala is a thousand times more important, the royal family have no traction or identity here except being posh twats we never see and make no difference at all to our existence.
 
Magicpole said:
Define a lot? There is no way there was anywhere near the rush to bunting down south. I was in Haddington for lunch on the Saturday and overheard one table bemoaning they saw nothing. I work in Edinburgh and didn’t see a thing. I heard the toffs in Morningside had a couple, but they are mostly English. It was a sodden squib up here.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Platinum Jubilee: Flotilla among Scotland's weekend celebrations

The re-enactment in Kelso is one of series of events across Scotland to mark the Platinum Jubilee.
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In fact our neighbour was in Chorley for the weekend and was saying how little there was down there, it was obviously patchy but there was stuff going on.I did see a poll about the future of the monarchy after the Queen, England was 55 % for Scotland 45 % for. So there is a difference but not as great as you'd think.
 
blueparrot said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Platinum Jubilee: Flotilla among Scotland's weekend celebrations

The re-enactment in Kelso is one of series of events across Scotland to mark the Platinum Jubilee.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

In fact our neighbour was in Chorley for the weekend and was saying how little there was down there, it was obviously patchy but there was stuff going on.I did see a poll about the future of the monarchy after the Queen, England was 55 % for Scotland 45 % for. So there is a difference but not as great as you'd think.
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Funny how a 55 45 in the last Indy was called a landslide. I don’t give a toss whether we keep the Monarch as head of state, it’s getting away from constant Tory rule brought to us by England. That’s the issue. England will never stop electing them. It’s incapable of seeing what a bunch of utter cunts they are. When they get rid of Bellend they will get in again. That’s your right, but we never vote for the cunts but need to suffer them.
 
Magicpole said:
Funny how a 55 45 in the last Indy was called a landslide. I don’t give a toss whether we keep the Monarch as head of state, it’s getting away from constant Tory rule brought to us by England. That’s the issue. England will never stop electing them. It’s incapable of seeing what a bunch of utter cunts they are. When they get rid of Bellend they will get in again. That’s your right, but we never vote for the cunts but need to suffer them.
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I agree, with the politics side of your point, but the politics has little to do with the Jubilee celebrations, which also were more about the historical occasion than any particular royalist support. While I may support independence, I'm completely ambivalent about the monarchy and would expect if there was a Yes vote the Queen would remain as head of state. As I say I don't reaaly care either way.
My original point was using selected photographs to say nothing was going on in Scotland could be equally selective to show the opposite and were therefore meaningless.
 
blueparrot said:
I agree, with the politics side of your point, but the politics has little to do with the Jubilee celebrations, which also were more about the historical occasion than any particular royalist support. While I may support independence, I'm completely ambivalent about the monarchy and would expect if there was a Yes vote the Queen would remain as head of state. As I say I don't reaaly care either way.
My original point was using selected photographs to say nothing was going on in Scotland could be equally selective to show the opposite and were therefore meaningless.
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I don’t care about the Monarchy but if it helps some to vote Indy by keeping it, crack on. She is not the issue. We are.
 
Magicpole said:
Define a lot? There is no way there was anywhere near the rush to bunting down south. I was in Haddington for lunch on the Saturday and overheard one table bemoaning they saw nothing. I work in Edinburgh and didn’t see a thing. I heard the toffs in Morningside had a couple, but they are mostly English. It was a sodden squib up here.
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Angry red faced little Scotlander.

You missed out on the celebrations we man, we had a ball
Magicpole said:
Funny how a 55 45 in the last Indy was called a landslide. I don’t give a toss whether we keep the Monarch as head of state, it’s getting away from constant Tory rule brought to us by England. That’s the issue. England will never stop electing them. It’s incapable of seeing what a bunch of utter cunts they are. When they get rid of Bellend they will get in again. That’s your right, but we never vote for the cunts but need to suffer them.
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Did you miss the part where we got a devolved Parliament and government?

SNP are in charge. We raise our own taxes and we spend it on budgets and projects set by the Scottish Parliament.

Take a look, you will be amazed at the fact we are in control of our own affairs on virtually everything domestically.

Suffer the Tories? I don’t, domestically they have virtually nothing to do with my life living and working in Scotland. No, be it education or our NHS or our social services or environmental policies or our judiciary etc etc if I’m unhappy I look much closer to home for the answers.
 
blueinsa said:
Angry red faced little Scotlander.

You missed out on the celebrations we man, we had a ball


Did you miss the part where we got a devolved Parliament and government?

SNP are in charge. We raise our own taxes and we spend it on budgets and projects set by the Scottish Parliament.

Take a look, you will be amazed at the fact we are in control of our own affairs on virtually everything domestically.

Suffer the Tories? I don’t, domestically they have virtually nothing to do with my life living and working in Scotland. No, be it education or our NHS or our social services or environmental policies or our judiciary etc etc if I’m unhappy I look much closer to home for the answers.
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If that’s all true and it isn’t, but just say it is. Why have the SNP wn every election for 15 years. In your own time. You might not think the Tories affect you, they do, but your choice to feel that way. Why do the SNP keep winning if everybody believed the tosh you wrote?

And how much of what you wrote is because you love the monarchy? Or the Flag? Does that inform you to ignore reality? Or not care as long as you have the queen or Charlie when he takes over. And one last thing, do you see yourself as Scottish first or British?
 
Magicpole said:
If that’s all true and it isn’t, but just say it is. Why have the SNP wn every election for 15 years. In your own time. You might not think the Tories affect you, they do, but your choice to feel that way. Why do the SNP keep winning if everybody believed the tosh you wrote?

And how much of what you wrote is because you love the monarchy? Or the Flag? Does that inform you to ignore reality? Or not care as long as you have the queen or Charlie when he takes over. And one last thing, do you see yourself as Scottish first or British?
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We have a SNP government in charge of virtually everything domestically that effects our daily lives.

I’m British English and proud of it. My kids are Scottish. My wife is South African.

We are incredibly happy living and working in Scotland and contributing to the country we call home.

Monarchy? No issue with it. Flags? Love them, big swirly things in the wind. 4 flag poles in the garden and we have the Union Jack, South African national flag, St Andrews and St George flying proudly.

Does that make me a flag shagger?
 
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