Apart from Foden, Palmer, McAtee and Delap of course that have all played for the first team?At this rate no one from the EDS would make it here. Seems like you need to have a 50m tag on your arse if you are going to succeed here.
Lavia has played for the first team, just needs to be playing more now. Falls in the PL2-> PL gap. Prob see Delap gone as well next few weeksApart from Foden, Palmer, McAtee and Delap of course that have all played for the first team?
If you want to be in the first team you have to be elite. Lavia isn't.
If he goes and performs at Southampton and we have a squad spot then perhaps he comes back, likelihood is that he might progress and perhaps end up in Bundesliga or Serie A.
Never said he didn't but I agree, hes getting nowhere by playing in PL2 or a token game time against League 2 opposition.Lavia has played for the first team, just needs to be playing more now. Falls in the PL2-> PL gap. Prob see Delap gone as well next few weeks
So we are going with the "not elite" excuse? Got it. I have to say that's kind of a new one as we have been going with the "attitude problem" as our go-to excuse for sometime now, seems that wouldn't cut it anymore.Apart from Foden, Palmer, McAtee and Delap of course that have all played for the first team?
If you want to be in the first team you have to be elite. Lavia isn't.
If he goes and performs at Southampton and we have a squad spot then perhaps he comes back, likelihood is that he might progress and perhaps end up in Bundesliga or Serie A.
Its not an excuse, City rate him highly but at the minute hes not at the level to step in and be playing across 4 competitions at the top level. Foden was and Palmer has been given CL and prem game time recently.So we are going with the "elite" excuse? a bit fresh air as we have been going with the "attitude problem" as our go-to excuse for sometime now, seems that wouldn't cut it anymore.
Braff and probably Sancho are the two I can think of, but both justified.Its not an excuse, City rate him highly but at the minute hes not at the level to step in and be playing across 4 competitions at the top level. Foden was and Palmer has been given CL and prem game time recently.
Id be shocked if City have sold him because we no longer think he has the ability.
I haven't seen this "attitude problem" you are referencing so don't know.
At this rate no one from the EDS would make it here. Seems like you need to have a 50m tag on your arse if you are going to succeed here.
Disappointed we are letting him go. Always thought he was talented and could easily turn out better than Kalvin Phillips with a couple of years development behind him. Hopefully we have put in a cheap buy back clause. Great signing for Southampton.
Not sure what's going on at City, we seem intent on selling player after player this summer
What is going on is we are giving our talented youngsters the chance to play at Premier League level in a team where they will have a better chance of getting a large number games under their belt, compared to the handful they would get if they stay and compete against the world class players we have. They will progress way more playing week in week out in the Premier League rather than getting 10-15 minutes off the bench here and there and the odd cup game against league 2 opposition. In addition the buying club are more likely to develop them than if they are just a 12m loan player.
In doing that we are also getting tens of millions of pounds and the option that we can buy them back if they progress (in top level English football rather than second tier European leagues) like they have the potential of doing. Also we are showing that kids in our academy come out at either our team (Foden, Palmer, McAtee) or if not they can get to the top level in Germany or the Premier League.
This site used to have a contributor (Neville Neville) who constantly said that the kids need playing time at the top level - Brandon Barker was one name he used who was on fire in the reserves but never got the chance at the right time and ended up fizzling out.
Honestly i can not see the down side in these moves, i think they are brilliant and get around the UK loan moves restrictions.
He could indeed turn out better than Phillips with a couple of years development behind him, that's why we've got a buy-back (and probably a sell-on) deal with Southampton. Where do you think this development is going to take place otherwise? Unless you want us to drop standards and possibly fall back into the chasing pack and out of the CL?Disappointed we are letting him go. Always thought he was talented and could easily turn out better than Kalvin Phillips with a couple of years development behind him. Hopefully we have put in a cheap buy back clause. Great signing for Southampton.
Not sure what's going on at City, we seem intent on selling player after player this summer
£10million for a player who hasn't got a single minute for the 1st team (or very little if so, couldn't be arsed checking TBH)? Plus we have a buy-back and presumably sell-on clause.At least we are shrewd enough to put buy back clauses in the contract so I guess that covers our back if they turn out good. £10m seems very cheap in todays market mind.
Not just the youngsters though - Raz, Gabby, Ake, Zinny - how many players are we actually moving on this year? Whilst none are first teamers, I am concerned we could be running short on players and we don't want a scenario like at the end of last year.
Agreed, if they are top talents at a young age (Foden) they break in to the first team. If not they get sold and hopefully establish themselves at a premier division side and may become a top player/established. With buy back clauses in place its the best possible solution available for all concerned.What is going on is we are giving our talented youngsters the chance to play at Premier League level in a team where they will have a better chance of getting a large number games under their belt, compared to the handful they would get if they stay and compete against the world class players we have. They will progress way more playing week in week out in the Premier League rather than getting 10-15 minutes off the bench here and there and the odd cup game against league 2 opposition. In addition the buying club are more likely to develop them than if they are just a 12m loan player.
In doing that we are also getting tens of millions of pounds and the option that we can buy them back if they progress (in top level English football rather than second tier European leagues) like they have the potential of doing. Also we are showing that kids in our academy come out at either our team (Foden, Palmer, McAtee) or if not they can get to the top level in Germany or the Premier League.
This site used to have a contributor (Neville Neville) who constantly said that the kids need playing time at the top level - Brandon Barker was one name he used who was on fire in the reserves but never got the chance at the right time and ended up fizzling out.
Honestly i can not see the down side in these moves, i think they are brilliant and get around the UK loan moves restrictions.
Of course they are first teamersAt least we are shrewd enough to put buy back clauses in the contract so I guess that covers our back if they turn out good. £10m seems very cheap in todays market mind.
Not just the youngsters though - Raz, Gabby, Ake, Zinny - how many players are we actually moving on this year? Whilst none are first teamers, I am concerned we could be running short on players and we don't want a scenario like at the end of last year.
Great post that.What is going on is we are giving our talented youngsters the chance to play at Premier League level in a team where they will have a better chance of getting a large number games under their belt, compared to the handful they would get if they stay and compete against the world class players we have. They will progress way more playing week in week out in the Premier League rather than getting 10-15 minutes off the bench here and there and the odd cup game against league 2 opposition. In addition the buying club are more likely to develop them than if they are just a 12m loan player.
In doing that we are also getting tens of millions of pounds and the option that we can buy them back if they progress (in top level English football rather than second tier European leagues) like they have the potential of doing. Also we are showing that kids in our academy come out at either our team (Foden, Palmer, McAtee) or if not they can get to the top level in Germany or the Premier League.
This site used to have a contributor (Neville Neville) who constantly said that the kids need playing time at the top level - Brandon Barker was one name he used who was on fire in the reserves but never got the chance at the right time and ended up fizzling out.
Honestly i can not see the down side in these moves, i think they are brilliant and get around the UK loan moves restrictions.
plus train well with first team when chance presentedI don`t know about having to have a 50m price tag but you do have to be an absolutely brilliant EDS player.
Okay. Well made points but Lavia could have had more minutes this season just gone and who knows?What is going on is we are giving our talented youngsters the chance to play at Premier League level in a team where they will have a better chance of getting a large number games under their belt, compared to the handful they would get if they stay and compete against the world class players we have. They will progress way more playing week in week out in the Premier League rather than getting 10-15 minutes off the bench here and there and the odd cup game against league 2 opposition. In addition the buying club are more likely to develop them than if they are just a 12m loan player.
In doing that we are also getting tens of millions of pounds and the option that we can buy them back if they progress (in top level English football rather than second tier European leagues) like they have the potential of doing. Also we are showing that kids in our academy come out at either our team (Foden, Palmer, McAtee) or if not they can get to the top level in Germany or the Premier League.
This site used to have a contributor (Neville Neville) who constantly said that the kids need playing time at the top level - Brandon Barker was one name he used who was on fire in the reserves but never got the chance at the right time and ended up fizzling out.
Honestly i can not see the down side in these moves, i think they are brilliant and get around the UK loan moves restrictions.
10 million is probably cheap for a reason, it will mean a lower buyback option. The higher the fee the higher the buyback. No club will put the effort in unless the buyback is at least 10 million profit.At least we are shrewd enough to put buy back clauses in the contract so I guess that covers our back if they turn out good. £10m seems very cheap in todays market mind.
Not just the youngsters though - Raz, Gabby, Ake, Zinny - how many players are we actually moving on this year? Whilst none are first teamers, I am concerned we could be running short on players and we don't want a scenario like at the end of last year.