It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

[Colin Bells Boots]

Have Chelsea come in for kitman Brandon and the tea lady yet?

In negotiations over wages .

 

[samuelyeboah]

But that's the point: if we're going to sell Ake, we'll buy someone better than him (at least in terms of potential)

I don't see a need to do that. We've done pretty well the last 2 years you'd agree

 

[LongsightM13]

4? Gomez and Tsimikas are 2 of their 5 and they're a big drop off from the main 3.

The point is not to debate the relative merits, it’s that they have four senior international CBs and even the lesser of those just signed a five year deal. So keeping four happy needn’t necessarily be impossible.
I think the Ake situation is purely related to a perfect storm of a weirdly timed World Cup and interest from the club where he started out, which itself is at least partly inspired by the fallout from external political factors.
In a normal year, I reckon Ake stays put quite happily, at least for another season or two

 

[Keeper!]

We don't need any players like Salisu. Waste of money! In any case, if we buy someone, he should be someone who can compete for the starting line-up!

That's a lazy piece, someone with no idea.

We will replace with a top quality CB, the more competition the better, it raises standards.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Anyone got any idea when the internet is going to be broken? I have a couple of Zoom calls that's all.

 

[lee_wsm]

Anyone got any idea when the internet is going to be broken? I have a couple of Zoom calls that's all.

When Barcelona input their financial history to get another loan at moneysupermarket

 

[Withnail]

If we get anywhere near 60m for Ake there should be a Txiki Begiristain statue outside the ground

Definitely, nearly as good as Leicester rinsing the Rags for £80m for slab head.

 

[McfcBibby]

Koulibaly would be perfect. but Napoli would be incredibly hard to negotiate with.

Been there, done that and got Dias instead thankfully

 

[McfcBibby]

Pep is convinced we don't need to replace Sterling for the left and Zinchenko should fill the requirement for him and the left back rotation.

Hope the lad trusts Pep :)

Quality news! Zina completely changed that left hand side when he came on against Villa.

 

[abraham7143]

Ake leaving

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The point is not to debate the relative merits, it’s that they have four senior international CBs and even the lesser of those just signed a five year deal. So keeping four happy needn’t necessarily be impossible.
I think the Ake situation is purely related to a perfect storm of a weirdly timed World Cup and interest from the club where he started out, which itself is at least partly inspired by the fallout from external political factors.
In a normal year, I reckon Ake stays put quite happily, at least for another season or two

But Ake is a level above Matip, Gomes, Tsimikas and Konate so why would he want to be 4th choice, as is widely reported? I would imagine Ake would have been quite happy to stay, but playing regularly, at 27, must appeal and good luck to him, I say.

He has played 40 games for city in 2 seasons which is 10 more than Tsimikas and Gomez combined. I would argue that the reason the four 'senior internationals' have signed is two-fold. One is obviously the cash and 2, more importantly, Chelsea (or any other top level club) are not in for them.
Pep obviously prefers Laporte and Dias (even when it always looks, to me at least, that Stones and Dias look the best pairing) as his first choice and he always seems loath to keep someone in the team just because they've played well. That being said, he does seem to know what he is doing, so I am not criticising him.

 

[samuelyeboah]

But Ake is a level above Matip, Gomes, Tsimikas and Konate so why would he want to be 4th choice, as is widely reported? I would imagine Ake would have been quite happy to stay, but playing regularly, at 27, must appeal and good luck to him, I say.

He has played 40 games for city in 2 seasons which is 10 more than Tsimikas and Gomez combined. I would argue that the reason the four 'senior internationals' have signed is two-fold. One is obviously the cash and 2, more importantly, Chelsea (or any other top level club) are not in for them.
Pep obviously prefers Laporte and Dias (even when it always looks, to me at least, that Stones and Dias look the best pairing) as his first choice and he always seems loath to keep someone in the team just because they've played well. That being said, he does seem to know what he is doing, so I am not criticising him.

I really don't think Ake is a level above matip/konate, I'd say they are both comfortably better

Also, Gomez has been injured for nearly an entire year of the 2 years Ake has been at city and tsimikas has been at Liverpool for 1 year out of the two, so that's an extremely disingenuous comparison.

In fact, tsimikas (Liverpool's second choice left back) has had the same amount of minutes as Ake this season - around 1700.

 

[razman]

Ake leaving

go on...

 

[Shaffer92]

go on...

doubt he knows anything but the odds have moved a lot over the last few days

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Ake is not a level above matip/konate.

Also, Gomez has been injured for nearly an entire year of the 2 years Ake has been at city and tsimikas has been at Liverpool for 1 year out of the two, so that's an extremely disingenuous comparison.

In fact, tsimikas (Liverpool's second choice left back) has had the same amount of minutes as Ake this season - around 1700.

Tsimikas signed in August 2020 and made his debut in September of the same year, which I reckon is 2 seasons. Played 2 PL games that season which was the season Van Dyke was out, and 13 the next. I reckon that is 2 seasons ago.

Gomez made his debut in 2015 as an 18 year old and, in seven seasons, he has made 87 appearances.

Konate might turn out to be a fabulous player and you could be right about him, but then again.....

Matip is 30 and has played over 40 fewer PL games than Ake. I get you don't rate the lad, and I think he is only ever going to be 4th choice here, but why aren't Chelsea chasing any of those players?

 

[mosssideblue]

Ake leaving

Question or statement?

 

[razman]

doubt he knows anything but the odds have moved a lot over the last few days

yes I did read the Twitter Bollocks most likely just posted below an hour back that's it done for 50m (which if he has to go , then is good money )

But waiting for proper source or @tolmie's hairdoo or @93.20blue

 

[samuelyeboah]

Tsimikas signed in August 2020 and made his debut in September of the same year, which I reckon is 2 seasons. Played 2 PL games that season which was the season Van Dyke was out, and 13 the next. I reckon that is 2 seasons ago.

Gomez made his debut in 2015 as an 18 year old and, in seven seasons, he has made 87 appearances.

Konate might turn out to be a fabulous player and you could be right about him, but then again.....

Matip is 30 and has played over 40 fewer PL games than Ake. I get you don't rate the lad, and I think he is only ever going to be 4th choice here, but why aren't Chelsea chasing any of those players?

You're right about tsimikas, he has played for the dippers for 2 seasons, I thought he was only there for one season, my bad.

matip being 30 does not mean Ake is better than him.

Ake is comfortably better than Gomez and tsimikas, but konate and matip are miles ahead of him

 

[Centurions]

LCB in a back 3. The wing back position went to Vale. Nonetheless, agree with you on Doyle being the better of the two.

Ahh, was he. I must admit to have only seen highlights and he seemed to be either very wide or if not, in the opposition box.

 

[Josh_D]

Ahh, was he. I must admit to have only seen highlights and he seemed to be either very wide or if not, in the opposition box.

That’s alright. I watched the competition…he was MOTM in the final as well. I’d say he needs another loan. Nonetheless, he’s better than Mbete for me. My opinion