Lack of pace on the wings

Yeah, be very rare to see a team play a high line against us so most of the supply will to Haaland will need to come from out wide.
Yes, although a lot of his goals for Dortmund came not from crosses, very few did, but passes around the box and underlapping cut backs to the edge of the 6 yard box. In other words how we've played and created before. I think chances Grealish with an overlapping full back would create loads of.
 
Fast counter-attacking is the one thing missing from our game as a team.

Sterling was good at that for a couple of years (2017-2019 era) and Sané was excellent at it. But whenever we’ve had the chance to quickly counter-attack over the last few years we seem to slow down, check back and wait for numbers instead of just going for it. Sterling was probably the worst for that when he played after being a good counter-attacker previously.

de Bruyne seems to be the only player who’ll consistently carry the ball directly forward and entice runners to get ahead of him. This is where I think Grealish would be good in midfield because he’s a strong runner with the ball and can carry the ball through a broken field and the quicker players could get ahead of him then.

Foden and Alvarez could be the answer to this as they both have pace, with Grealish in midfield instead of wide. But that leaves us a winger short squad-wise so we’d have to sign another winger as well as a left back.
I'm not quite so sure that Alvarez has the pace that people are saying on here. When he had the chance to break on Saturday, he was quite quickly caught up by their defence and he had to stop and play the ball back into midfield.
 
I'm not quite so sure that Alvarez has the pace that people are saying on here. When he had the chance to break on Saturday, he was quite quickly caught up by their defence and he had to stop and play the ball back into midfield.
Yeah i noticed that. Reports from Argentina never indicated he had any great pace.
 
Love this time of year when you can see the narratives forming. Might do a shot every time a read a variation of "with Grealish and Mahrez we look a lot less dangerous". I'll look like later years George Best before the world cup opening game.

"We never replaced Sane's pace" is the new "we never replaced De Jong's midfield aggression".
 
Love this time of year when you can see the narratives forming. Might do a shot every time a read a variation of "with Grealish and Mahrez we look a lot less dangerous". I'll look like later years George Best before the world cup opening game.

"We never replaced Sane's pace" is the new "we never replaced De Jong's midfield aggression".
Not really, De Jong often didn’t start the big games. You might say the same about Sane but we also had Sterling. Take those 2 and Jesus out and we lack pace out wide. Not essential but a very good option to at least have at times.
 
Love this time of year when you can see the narratives forming. Might do a shot every time a read a variation of "with Grealish and Mahrez we look a lot less dangerous". I'll look like later years George Best before the world cup opening game.

"We never replaced Sane's pace" is the new "we never replaced De Jong's midfield aggression".
Spot on. Odd how the Mahrez and Grealish naysayers fail to acknowledge that we scored the most PL goals even with this undangerous pair playing in the vast majority of the games.
 
Well Mahrez and Grealish are no Robben and Ribery pace wise. Foden is quick but not Sane quick. We saw how much Vunicious troubled us with his pace in CL last year. With Sterling gone dont know how we will switch to quick transition from defense to attack that we did in the centurion season.
title has gone , it's all about top 4/6 this year . terrible window so far .
 
Spot on. Odd how the Mahrez and Grealish naysayers fail to acknowledge that we scored the most PL goals even with this undangerous pair playing in the vast majority of the games.
Mahrez is the best in the world at taking a cross-field pass from high in the air, trapping it dead and then he's looking for a through ball from an overlapping player, or a reverse pass. When that option isn't on he tries to move to goal, usually taking on 2/3 defenders and he gets crowded out and the turnover happens. That's where most fans get their ffs with him. Walker sometimes overlaps but his crossing is rubbish and playing a false 9 has meant quite often there isn't a Sergio waiting for the pass. Once some telepathy gets bedded between him and Haaland/Alvarez I predict good things. We all want the world with new, exciting signings but it takes time. We'll score more this season than last.
 
It can be frustrating at times when we manage to get our winger into a 1 v 1 scenario and they decide to pass it back. Hoping the realisation that someone will always be in the box will change things.
That’s a particular bugbear of mine. Drive on to the bye line Ffs. Not a fan of inverted wingers either.
 
That’s a particular bugbear of mine. Drive on to the bye line Ffs. Not a fan of inverted wingers either.
When did we last do that though even with Sane and Sterling we didn’t they would be put through , usually by Silva, in the area and they’d pull it back or put it across the 6 yard area for a tap in. They hardly ever went wide to the by line and crossed it.
 
How many games did Mahrez start in league last season?
Ok admittedly I used the term "vast majority" quite loosely ;-)

Still for me, playing some part in 28 games as an attacking player in the highest scoring team in the league makes it at least arguable that he helps make us dangerous as a team
 
When did we last do that though even with Sane and Sterling we didn’t they would be put through , usually by Silva, in the area and they’d pull it back or put it across the 6 yard area for a tap in. They hardly ever went wide to the by line and crossed it.
Final match v Villa! Can't remember any others from last season probably because it's fresh in the memory, and a very important goal too. Created by Sterling.
 
Spot on. Odd how the Mahrez and Grealish naysayers fail to acknowledge that we scored the most PL goals even with this undangerous pair playing in the vast majority of the games.
We scored 7-0 against Leeds 4-1 against Man united with this pair. Before saying the opposites were shit we got 2-0 against Man united and 4-1 against Leeds with a different pair of wingers...

The idea is Grealish to cut inside to create an overload on the left side, shifted to the right to let Mahrez/KDB finish it off. We saw similar cases happened in the game vs Liverpool but just unfortunately the shots were saved. I think that this set up is okay at least for normal league games but we just need to add more variations and also include Halaand run into this system.

Just look at Liverpool Salah and Dias are also inverted wingers and sometimes Salah only holds the ball wide instead of cutting inside and wait for TAA and Henderson arrive. Mahrez and Grealish did the same but our full backs and midfielders tend to stay behind. I suspect that Pep told Cancelo and Walker to run less and avoid injuries because they are the only 2 senior full backs... We need to buy some more. With the 5 subs rule many teams will use multiple pairs of wingers and full backs to run at us and we need back ups.
 
First - you’re wrong. We have plenty of pace. Mahrez and grealish are plenty quick. Plus we have Walker and cancelo.
Second - What good is pace when we play the vast majority of our games in the opponents final 3rd and it’s technical ability that unlocks the defences. Overlapping runs trump pace 100 times out of 100 if done correctly.

And switching from defence to attack… we did that plenty last season. KDB managed that a lot on his own.
 
First - you’re wrong. We have plenty of pace. Mahrez and grealish are plenty quick. Plus we have Walker and cancelo.
Second - What good is pace when we play the vast majority of our games in the opponents final 3rd and it’s technical ability that unlocks the defences. Overlapping runs trump pace 100 times out of 100 if done correctly.

And switching from defence to attack… we did that plenty last season. KDB managed that a lot on his own.
Mahrez and Grealish are not quick and never have been, very different skill set to a pacey winger but when they play together we become one dimensional, especially on the left side because both Grealish and Cancello want to play in the same space.
 
Mahrez and Grealish are not quick and never have been, very different skill set to a pacey winger but when they play together we become one dimensional, especially on the left side because both Grealish and Cancello want to play in the same space.
Plenty
 
That’s a particular bugbear of mine. Drive on to the bye line Ffs. Not a fan of inverted wingers either.
I agree can get a bit frustrating bordering on tedious at times. I don't know but suspect we do it more when we are winning and the team can hold their shape there, but it's a much better watch when they attack the byline.
 
We really miss a Vinnius type of player on the wing. That's where we are short, especially given we have sold Sterling. None of our wingers naturally get to the byline and cross. Madrid/Benzema get so many goals this way and even if that's not how we traditionally attack it's a useful to have this in our tool box!

Who is the RW version of Vinnius?
 

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