CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

manimanc said:
The only way all these accusations and mud slinging will stop is if we stop winning leagues and cups and just took ourselves into mid table obscurity.

I can imagine the shitstorm that will follow when we eventually win the champions league.

The media are a joke in this country.
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Never see re runs of Chelsea’s CL wins, same awaits us. Plenty of rags and Dippers.
 
projectriver said:
Thanks for the comments. My piece for the Mail also explains the rock and a hard place nature of the situation. I wrote this a year ago and it remains valid today...

www.dailymail.co.uk

STEFAN BORSON: Premier League in unenviable spot in City legal battles

Manchester City's seemingly never-ending battle with the football authorities over matters of accounting are so esoteric you wonder who's interested.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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But this piece is highly accusatory and clearly labels City as the villains, insinuating that there is underlying substance 'despite not knowing the nature of the allegations of wrong doing'.

'Leaked emails appear to show the club inflated income to get round FFP rules'
- I think that should be 'hacked emails', contorted by der spiegel, and anyone who reproduced the doctored docs, to imply City had broken rules.
'The Premier League are after them, but they face a tough task to prosecute'
- You make them sound like the heroic sheriff, riding after the baddie - well that posse is still going round in circles as they have no explanation for the chase - the vultures should be gathering for the posse under the dry summer sun...
'The outcome is likely to take a long time, with City taking a belligerent approach'
Belligerent? You mean understandably defensive in the face of a 'clear and obvious' campaign to malign the club, with the PL complicit with the hateful8 in instigating baseless accusations, I mean, 3 years on and counting, just enabling ongoing libel in the press...
 
train man said:
But this piece is highly accusatory and clearly labels City as the villains, insinuating that there is underlying substance 'despite not knowing the nature of the allegations of wrong doing'.

'Leaked emails appear to show the club inflated income to get round FFP rules'
- I think that should be 'hacked emails', contorted by der spiegel, and anyone who reproduced the doctored docs, to imply City had broken rules.
'The Premier League are after them, but they face a tough task to prosecute'
- You make them sound like the heroic sheriff, riding after the baddie - well that posse is still going round in circles as they have no explanation for the chase - the vultures should be gathering for the posse under the dry summer sun...
'The outcome is likely to take a long time, with City taking a belligerent approach'
Belligerent? You mean understandably defensive in the face of a 'clear and obvious' campaign to malign the club, with the PL complicit with the hateful8 in instigating baseless accusations, I mean, 3 years on and counting, just enabling ongoing libel in the press...
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Can't really understand your reply including quotes that don't actually appear in the piece. As for your premise that it is "highly accusatory and clearly labels City as the villains", it isn't and doesn't.
 
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train man said:
But this piece is highly accusatory and clearly labels City as the villains, insinuating that there is underlying substance 'despite not knowing the nature of the allegations of wrong doing'.

'Leaked emails appear to show the club inflated income to get round FFP rules'
- I think that should be 'hacked emails', contorted by der spiegel, and anyone who reproduced the doctored docs, to imply City had broken rules.
'The Premier League are after them, but they face a tough task to prosecute'
- You make them sound like the heroic sheriff, riding after the baddie - well that posse is still going round in circles as they have no explanation for the chase - the vultures should be gathering for the posse under the dry summer sun...
'The outcome is likely to take a long time, with City taking a belligerent approach'
Belligerent? You mean understandably defensive in the face of a 'clear and obvious' campaign to malign the club, with the PL complicit with the hateful8 in instigating baseless accusations, I mean, 3 years on and counting, just enabling ongoing libel in the press...
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The Statute of Limitations will kick in given the glacial pace the PL are moving at.
 
projectriver said:
As per the article, perhaps some sort of weak settlement on a related issue. But hard to say.
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Do you think we’re under any sort of monitoring or sanctions at the minute that haven’t been announced.

Club just seem to have been very strict with their selling before they buy policy and I’m wondering if it’s not their choice.
 
It still pisses me off that we were fined for not cooperating with the investigation.
If the police charged you with a crime and then ame to you asking for details to help them build a case you would tell them to get fucked.
They should have charged us based on evidence that they had and that should have been the end if it.
The fine was there just to give the illusion of guilt on our part.
 
train man said:
But this piece is highly accusatory and clearly labels City as the villains, insinuating that there is underlying substance 'despite not knowing the nature of the allegations of wrong doing'.

'Leaked emails appear to show the club inflated income to get round FFP rules'
- I think that should be 'hacked emails', contorted by der spiegel, and anyone who reproduced the doctored docs, to imply City had broken rules.
'The Premier League are after them, but they face a tough task to prosecute'
- You make them sound like the heroic sheriff, riding after the baddie - well that posse is still going round in circles as they have no explanation for the chase - the vultures should be gathering for the posse under the dry summer sun...
'The outcome is likely to take a long time, with City taking a belligerent approach'
Belligerent? You mean understandably defensive in the face of a 'clear and obvious' campaign to malign the club, with the PL complicit with the hateful8 in instigating baseless accusations, I mean, 3 years on and counting, just enabling ongoing libel in the press...
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Wow, that’s really not how I read it
 
abu13 said:
It still pisses me off that we were fined for not cooperating with the investigation.
If the police charged you with a crime and then ame to you asking for details to help them build a case you would tell them to get fucked.
They should have charged us based on evidence that they had and that should have been the end if it.
The fine was there just to give the illusion of guilt on our part.
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The CAS fine was because we didn't cooperate with UEFA, having previously agreed to cooperate with them in the regs of the competition.
Yes, City had reasons not to cooperate, but it was a fairly clear breach. They have to punish that or no-one would ever cooperate again.
 
abu13 said:
It still pisses me off that we were fined for not cooperating with the investigation.
If the police charged you with a crime and then ame to you asking for details to help them build a case you would tell them to get fucked.
They should have charged us based on evidence that they had and that should have been the end if it.
The fine was there just to give the illusion of guilt on our part.
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To be fair, we agree to UEFA's licensing rules so we would need to comply with them. In civil cases (as this is) parties are obligated to disclose documents and evidence that both supports and weakens their case. Those are the rules.
 
I read a year ago that if City are not charged by the end of this year that almost all of the “evidence” will be time barred.

I know the PL has no time limits, unlike UEFA, but general law still seemed to apply. Some said it didn’t but most insisted it did.

If the above is correct and City haven’t been accused of anything by the end of this year it’s unlikely anything will be found.

@projectriver
 
I doubt it will ever go away.
In case we forget our owner was never welcomed.
At first we thought it would stop when FFP was defeated at CAS but the resentment is deep and based on fear.

How right they were to be afraid, he has defeated them on and off the field of play.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I don’t think it will, Uefa have been coming after us well before Pep’s appointment. Who ever we have in charge, City are a threat to the football status quo.
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Maybe, and it will be interesting. But I see City's total and utter success down to Pep, not the money. I think once Pep goes we will become one of the top dogs instead of THE top dog, and they will leave us alone. IE its ok to play but we're not allowed to win.

We will see though, unless Pep NEVER leaves :)
 
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