United Thread - 2022/23

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Gordyola said:
They should have gone for Potter who will be a candidate to replace Pep when that sad days comes
I expected that there would be more of an improvement than was showed yesterday, really surprised that ten Hagg was schooled by Potter it looked like he had never seen Brighton's tactics used by them yesterday whereas Potter would have been guessing how ten Hagg would set-up the rags
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Ten Hag is a very good coach, I really do rate him. But the poison running through that club from top to bottom, including their deluded fanbase, all the ex-players and Fergie still being there, the constant magnifying glass analysis in post-match losses by Neville and co on Sky, and all the ridiculously poor buys they’ve made for a decade and more spending over £1bn in the process (and they moan about the Glazers!) is going to stop anyone from being a good coach at that club.

That Ralf Rangnick was absolutely spot on when he said this last season:


“It’s not the managers’ quality, it’s about changing all the other things that have brought the club into the position we are in right now”.

It’s not the owners who’re the problem or the coaches they’ve had, it’s the poisonous thread running through the club, the “we did this in the 90s” looking back in time attitude. They aren’t a progressive club looking towards the future, the club and their fanbase are desperately clinging on to the past.

Even the appointment of Steve McLaren seems a United decision, it smacks of a “McLaren was the assistant coach when we won the treble in 99, and you know him from your Twente links, so you should appoint him, it’ll give the fans some comfort from the memories of that season”, more than it is a Ten Hag appointment.

Nothing will change at United until Fergie’s footsteps are no longer heard in their corridors and their fans come to the realisation that nothing lasts forever, they were never really that special anyway (it was just the perfect storm of them winning trophies just as money exploded in the game), that there are many very brilliant clubs in England and at any time any from about 25 could become a top club with the right backing and right board members.
 
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Gordyola said:
They should have gone for Potter who will be a candidate to replace Pep when that sad days comes
I expected that there would be more of an improvement than was showed yesterday, really surprised that ten Hagg was schooled by Potter it looked like he had never seen Brighton's tactics used by them yesterday whereas Potter would have been guessing how ten Hagg would set-up the rags
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Even Harry Potter wouldn’t change that team around to a winning team
 
Vienna_70 said:
Because most of them have known nothing but raggy success.

Born in the '80s, their earliest memories will be of the rags winning (almost) everything every season, and that was how they expected it to be ad infinitum.

Then the pisscan "retired", and football just hasn’t been the same since. Money has ruined it.
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Yep and why when Pep leaves we need to win the league in the next 2/3 years again! Yep we won the league with Mancini and Pelegríne but when a manager of the calibre of Pep leaves the standard will drop and you fall back into the pack so when he goes we have to win the league again as quickly as possible…
 


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The media the fans believe the rags have a bottomless pit of money they don’t and when they don’t get top four next this season that’s amount blow to them!
 
The Dt this morning pinpoints five things that Ted Rag has to sort out; the defence, Ronaldo (so not only the defence but the attack!), where to fit McTominay and Fred (so that's the midfield), the 'system', and the kids! Sounds like a job that Ferguson would turn up his nose at!
 
Looby blue said:
Manyoo have always been shite. They had lucky 20 year blip with pisscan.
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Busby turned them from nothing into a really good club to be fair.

Before Busby, United were nothing, and if it wasn’t for City they’d still be a nothing club or have long gone out of business.

We agreed to give them first dibs on our banned players in 1906, with whom they won 2 league titles and an FA Cup. Without them, United wouldn’t have won any trophies at all in their first 46 years as a club until Busby went there.

We voted with them when Manchester Central wanted to join the FL, which kept them in business. Without us doing that there would be no Manchester United today because they were in the shit and Central were getting bigger crowds than them as an amateur club and had better backers. United were floundering down the bottom of the Second Division and getting gates as low as 4,000 which saw them being insolvent. They couldn’t even afford new kits. But Central not getting voted in saw their backers back-out, Central disappeared, and United’s crowds started to up-tick again.

Matt Busby had a trial at City but told City that he was thinking of emigrating to America with his Mother. So City offered him a one year contract and told him he could go to America after the year if he still wanted to but we were so impressed with him we offered him a full time contract during that year and he decided not to join his Mother in America and stayed with City. If City hadn’t shown so much interest and faith in him, he’d have gone to America and never have ended up turning United from nothing (nearly going bust and getting 11,000 average attendances in the 1930s) into the biggest club in the country.

We allowed them to use Maine Road after Old Trafford was bombed. They used it for 4 years just as City had been relegated and just as Busby started building a decent side. This lead to United sucking away our support somewhat as City fans were watching both teams but enjoying seeing ex-City star Busby at another local club playing in our own stadium and the better team at the time more. United wouldn’t have gained that support without being on our turf.

What have we got in return off the cunts? A banner mocking our longest trophy drought (but not Manchester’s longest trophy drought, as their 37 years is longer!) and a load of songs their fans sing about us all the time.
 
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Its one of the biggest mysteries of the modern era.
How you can spend over a billion pounds on players in less than a decade and still end up with Dalot and McTominay in your starting XI
Two players who wouldn't stand out at Championship level
 
Gordyola said:
They should have gone for Potter who will be a candidate to replace Pep when that sad days comes
I expected that there would be more of an improvement than was showed yesterday, really surprised that ten Hagg was schooled by Potter it looked like he had never seen Brighton's tactics used by them yesterday whereas Potter would have been guessing how ten Hagg would set-up the rags
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Not just Potter but the whole setup that gets them the raw material to build the team too.

United's recruitment is pathetic.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Busby turned them from nothing into a really good club to be fair.

Before Busby, United were nothing, and if it wasn’t for City they’d still be a nothing club or have long gone out of business.

We agreed to give them first dibs on our banned players in 1906, with whom they won 2 league titles and an FA Cup. Without them, United wouldn’t have won any trophies at all in their first 46 years as a club until Busby went there.

We voted with them when Manchester Central wanted to join the FL, which kept them in business. Without us doing that there would be no Manchester United today because they were in the shit and Central were getting bigger crowds than them as an amateur club and had better backers. United were floundering down the bottom of the Second Division and getting gates as low as 4,000 which saw them being insolvent. They couldn’t even afford new kits. But Central not getting voted in saw their backers back-out, Central disappeared, and United’s crowds started to up-tick again.

Matt Busby had a trial at City but told City that he was thinking of emigrating to America with his Mother. So City offered him a one year contract and told him he could go to America after the year if he still wanted to but we were so impressed with him we offered him a full time contract during that year and he decided not to join his Mother in America and stayed with City. If City hadn’t shown so much interest and faith in him, he’d have gone to America and never have ended up turning United from nothing (nearly going bust and getting 11,000 average attendances in the 1930s) into the biggest club in the country.

We allowed them to use Maine Road after Old Trafford was bombed. They used it for 4 years just as City had been relegated and just as Busby started building a decent side. This lead to United sucking away our support somewhat as City fans were watching both teams but enjoying seeing ex-City star Busby at another local club and the better team at the time more. United wouldn’t have gained that support without being on our turf.

What have we got in return off the cunts? A banner mocking our longest trophy drought (but not Manchester’s longest trophy drought, as their 37 years is longer!) and a load of songs their fans sing about us all the time.
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