Gas & Electricity

civil unrest is a certainty when 68% of the basic pension will be taken up with energy bills and 105% of universal credit in some article i read somewhere.its totaly unsubstainable poll tax riots will look like a family day out.maybe its whats needed so the government make these energy companies use their massive profits to help the country out.i can really see proper unrest ahead
 
city saint said:
civil unrest is a certainty when 68% of the basic pension will be taken up with energy bills and 105% of universal credit in some article i read somewhere.its totaly unsubstainable poll tax riots will look like a family day out.maybe its whats needed so the government make these energy companies use their massive profits to help the country out.i can really see proper unrest ahead
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Yep, where does it all end, what happens in April if it doubles again, £700 to £800 a month? 80% in fuel poverty. Somethings got to give.
 
gandalfthebrave said:
I mentioned it to another business owner who seems to think they’ll be doubling again in April.

Successive governments have done a piss poor job of ensuring our energy security in this country. In fact what they’ve done is criminal.

Throwing net zero and green levies on top of an already strained sector is nuts. But as someone else said, we’ll all grumble then grab a brew and watch strictly.

I do genuinely wonder what the line in the sand is for the average Brit, before they get off their arses and protest. Like, really protest and kick off so the government take note.

A ban on foreign holidays? Instagram ocades r tiktok being banned? No more Love Island?

No matter what gets thrown at most brits they seem to just accept it and plod on. Crazy.
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Absolute decades of compliance and the demonisation by the media of anybody who dares stand up for their rights will do that. No major powerful government of the world would just let energy companies do this to their citizens when they're making billions in profits. If everybody refused to pay they'd have to do something. They won't though and what they will do is hammer a few of the ones that do so it cowes everyone else into compliance. People will die and our government won't give a shit, it's less to pay pensions and benefits to.
 
city saint said:
civil unrest is a certainty when 68% of the basic pension will be taken up with energy bills and 105% of universal credit in some article i read somewhere.its totaly unsubstainable poll tax riots will look like a family day out.maybe its whats needed so the government make these energy companies use their massive profits to help the country out.i can really see proper unrest ahead
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I certainly hope so. Enough is enough.
 
Our monthly payment at the moment is £247. This was set last time round with EON. The last 2 months our bill has been approx £85 per month. We are nearly £600 in credit. Do you reckon their estimate has been too high.?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Not sure people have factored in that businesses will be affected even more than households.

For example, I bet there aren’t many chippies left next Easter.
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Education establishments are being hit. I know of a lot of schools that are not able to replace staff or offer pay scale rises due to an increase of anywhere from 100-400% price hike.

Then government throw in a nation wide pay increase that they haven’t funded, and topped with the energy rises, a lot of places are going to suffer more so being understaffed and educations will be impacted.

What a fucking shambles of a country. I won’t be able to stay above the breadline with these increases from October and especially again, living on my own.

I’ve started putting the wheels in motion to move abroad next year if I can get things sorted.
 
Scottyboi said:
Crazy that they can over estimate that much, they must make a fortune earning interest on all the credit they rack up.
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Something really does stink. My lads have both moved out and wife and I are at work all day. I'm gonna try and get in touch with EON and see what they have to say.
 
BlueTG said:
Education establishments are being hit. I know of a lot of schools that are not able to replace staff or offer pay scale rises due to an increase of anywhere from 100-400% price hike.

Then government throw in a nation wide pay increase that they haven’t funded, and topped with the energy rises, a lot of places are going to suffer more so being understaffed and educations will be impacted.

What a fucking shambles of a country. I won’t be able to stay above the breadline with these increases from October and especially again, living on my own.

I’ve started putting the wheels in motion to move abroad next year if I can get things sorted.
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I think what people are missing is whether the Govt give "handouts" - tax cuts or top ups the energy firms will remain unaffected as the cash will just go to them - fucking mad. Either the Govt takes money off them and gives it back to us or they place a maximum price that can be charged based on last years high - they won't go bust - they will feel the pinch for a bit but they won't go bust. Why should we fund them again with our taxes so they get double bubble?
 
The pensioners used to fuck off abroad on cheap all inclusive holidays for six months and save on the bills but they can only go for 90 days now. It will still be worth doing though in the coldest months.
 
ZebraVicar said:
Nail on the head. People don't need handouts they need an affordable rate for energy.
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At the moment there is no affordable energy rate, it's completely impossible because gas is imported at market rates and the market rate for gas has gone up by 400% in just 12 months. The only option for the government is to subsidise the price of this gas, that's it, there's no other choice and it'll probably cost the earth which is why they won't do it.

This isn't due to profiteering either, it's because a considerable chunk of the world's gas comes from Russia and the Russian market stall for gas has now closed. The rest of the world now must fight for supply which is why there is a real threat that the lights could go out over the winter let alone whether we need to worry about prices.

This is happening specifically here because the UK generates 50% of its electricity from burning gas which is why France is enjoying affordable rates in comparison.... 80% of their electricity comes from nuclear and you don't need to import any gas to run a nuclear powerplant.
 
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paulchapo said:
The pensioners used to fuck off abroad on cheap all inclusive holidays for six months and save on the bills but they can only go for 90 days now. It will still be worth doing though in the coldest months.
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Didn't know that mate.
How do the pensioners that live in Spain go on ?
 
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