The Conservative Party

[Bodicoteblue]

I think what we are seeing is what has been and what will come - ie a lack of clarity and leadership - there is no doubt Johnson is unable to make a decision so he dithers but ultimately dances to a different pipes tune - Truss or Sunak will do the same - they will be easily manipulated or controlled by others around them

Ladies and gentlemen I give you …brexit!
The single biggest shock to a country politically, socially and economically,
entered into without the vestige of a plan.
Now they don’t want to talk about it except to say how wonderful it’s going to be when we start to reap the benefits. Again no plan - just hopes and lies.
Alexander de feffel danced to the ERG tune and now (probably) truss will too.
Different face - same bullshit.

 

[bluethrunthru]

OUT. OF. TOUCH. Surprising for a man who was once unemployed for a year and struggled along with his wealthy wife whilst living rent free on his millionaire father in laws estate in a lodge......

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

They have really bankrupt us, haven’t they.

 

[Vic]

OUT. OF. TOUCH. Surprising for a man who was once unemployed for a year and struggled along with his wealthy wife whilst living rent free on his millionaire father in laws estate in a lodge......

It's economic nonsense that IDS and Truss are spouting, that tax cuts will mean more spending to stave off recession. Not all the extra money from tax cuts will get spent, a lot will be used as personal investments, whereas every penny given to the poor will be spent in the economy.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

It's economic nonsense that IDS and Truss are spouting, that tax cuts will mean more spending to stave off recession. Not all the extra money from tax cuts will get spent, a lot will be used as personal investments, whereas every penny given to the poor will be spent in the economy.

Sunak kept back £50 billion as a ‘just in case’ policy. Just wondering where that’s gone, as well as all the other extra tax received from higher, extortionate prices?

 

[Bodicoteblue]

They have really bankrupt us, haven’t they.

Financially yes, but we must never be the special kind of moral bankrupts that these are.
There will be those amongst us who can analyse and interpret the sheer economic illiteracy, and incompetence on display, but I have my own view and that is……..
they just don’t give a shit.

 

[west didsblue]

It's economic nonsense that IDS and Truss are spouting, that tax cuts will mean more spending to stave off recession. Not all the extra money from tax cuts will get spent, a lot will be used as personal investments, whereas every penny given to the poor will be spent in the economy.

Any tax cut will be dwarfed by the increase in energy costs. No one is going to feel better off and go out and spend more to stave off a recession. Not a fucking chance.

 

[Vic]

Any tax cut will be dwarfed by the increase in energy costs. No one is going to feel better off and go out and spend more to stave off a recession. Not a fucking chance.

I was thinking of the general principle of applying Reagonomics in these circumstances. The rich spend tax cuts on holidays abroad or on luxury goods made abroad, or save the money, while 100% of any money given to the poor is spent in the UK economy; which is better for avoiding recession?

Actually, I'm not sure how we can possibly go into recession, if money that might have gone into savings goes instead to paying energy bills. Don't energy bills count towards GDP?

 

[lust overlord]

Not sure this government actually wish to avoid a recession.

 

[west didsblue]

I was thinking of the general principle of applying Reagonomics in these circumstances. The rich spend tax cuts on holidays abroad or on luxury goods made abroad, or save the money, while 100% of any money given to the poor is spent in the UK economy; which is better for avoiding recession?

Actually, I'm not sure how we can possibly go into recession, if money that might have gone into savings goes instead to paying energy bills. Don't energy bills count towards GDP?

That's a fair point. Anyone who used to save a small amount every month will be spending it on energy along with what they've cut back on to afford their bills. Anyone who can afford it will simply be spending more on energy and saving less. The net effect is a larger spend by the population - a lot more on energy and a bit less on everything else, so even if this does avoid a technical recession (which I suspect it won't) it will certainly feel like one.

 

[East Level 2]

I think what we are seeing is what has been and what will come - ie a lack of clarity and leadership - there is no doubt Johnson is unable to make a decision so he dithers but ultimately dances to a different pipes tune - Truss or Sunak will do the same - they will be easily manipulated or controlled by others around them

More so in the case of Truss. Sunak might have a few ideas of his own, though probably not constructive ones, but Truss is just a useful idiot for her controllers.

 

[carlosthejackal]

 

[bluethrunthru]

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corrupt, corrupt, corrupt and top of the shop is terms of £££££'s is Randox - the company that Owen Patterson was openly lobbying for and which began the rot to lead to Johnsons demise

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Anybody see Coffey on SSN? Is she autistic as she seems unable to actually look at the presenter, instead looking for answers in her mind that seem to be scripted.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

corrupt, corrupt, corrupt and top of the shop is terms of £££££'s is Randox - the company that Owen Patterson was openly lobbying for and which began the rot to lead to Johnsons demise

Did you say ‘corrupt’?

 

[bluebaja]

12 years of the NHS being "safe in their hands "

Full extent of NHS dentistry shortage revealed by far-reaching BBC research

Nine in 10 UK dentists are not accepting new adult patients, while eight in 10 are refusing children.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tried to get appointments for my two teenage kids this week....months before they can be seen. Compare that with the vets who have an open clinic every weekday morning where I can just walk in with my dog without an appointments and get seen. Something wrong somewhere.

 

[lust overlord]

Tried to get appointments for my two teenage kids this week....months before they can be seen. Compare that with the vets who have an open clinic every weekday morning where I can just walk in with my dog without an appointments and get seen. Something wrong somewhere.

I know it's a joke.

In terms of cost though,the vets have your pants down even worse than the dentist.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The parody accounts are savage.



BBC just had a water boss on with the usual appalling attempts to excuse the failure to stop leaks - "we have a plan to do it by 2050" - that's nearly 30 years to not do anything while raking in vast amounts.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The parody accounts are savage.



BBC just had a water boss on with the usual appalling attempts to excuse the failure to stop leaks - "we have a plan to do it by 2050" - that's nearly 30 years to not do anything while raking in vast amounts.

For something that is free at source.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

For something that is free at source.

and while polluting the sea and rivers - against the law but all but unpunished.