8 | Ilkay Gundogan - 2022/23

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As a lad who backed Gundo to the hilt when a lot of the forum wanted him sent to a gulag or something, it is nice to see that he is finally getting the respect that he deserves.

He is one of the finest midfielders to ever play in our shirt, he is also humble and decent, plus he is a leader.
 
As a lad who backed Gundo to the hilt when a lot of the forum wanted him sent to a gulag or something, it is nice to see that he is finally getting the respect that he deserves.

He is one of the finest midfielders to ever play in our shirt, he is also humble and decent, plus he is a leader.
I am guilty of not getting him initially but hes proved me wrong a million times

Yes you can put him at the top table
 
He was never hopeless. This was an urban myth that occasionally rears its head
He has been for most of the time one of the "official" scapegoats on this forum. Some "expert" and "high-posting" posters here made sure to promote and cement that. Lately, there has been a feint change of tone due his obvious impact on title wins over the last two seasons in particular. They are just waiting for his next misstep to call it a one-off.
 
I am guilty of not getting him initially but hes proved me wrong a million times

Yes you can put him at the top table
Absolutely pal, he is a magnificent footballer who for some reason is hugely underrated.

His team mates value him thought that much they voted for him to take over from Ferna, that is quite an honour.
 
Absolutely pal, he is a magnificent footballer who for some reason is hugely underrated.

His team mates value him thought that much they voted for him to take over from Ferna, that is quite an honour.
Indeed it is. For his team mates to pick him above KDB and Diaz speaks volumes very loudly.

We all know when we played football, winning players player was the bees knees
 
As a lad who backed Gundo to the hilt when a lot of the forum wanted him sent to a gulag or something, it is nice to see that he is finally getting the respect that he deserves.

He is one of the finest midfielders to ever play in our shirt, he is also humble and decent, plus he is a leader.
As other players have come and gone, the pieces really have slotted in around him, to really allow his ability to shine. When he first arrived he had Silva ruling the position he's currently operating in, and he was too often deployed in a defensive capacity due to a lack of options, before Rodri arrived.

It was always evident in Champions League group stage games, how technically adept he is, when he was brought on to dictate tempo and see out a victory, but it's only now that we're able to fully appreciate how his skills truly fit into Pep's machine. I do hope we never have to see him deployed in a defensive role again. Not just because it was torrid to watch, but because he's just too damn good deployed as part of our perpetual motion machine up top. I have a feeling he'll not be far behind KDB in the assists department if he gets the game time.
 
As other players have come and gone, the pieces really have slotted in around him, to really allow his ability to shine. When he first arrived he had Silva ruling the position he's currently operating in, and he was too often deployed in a defensive capacity due to a lack of options, before Rodri arrived.

It was always evident in Champions League group stage games, how technically adept he is, when he was brought on to dictate tempo and see out a victory, but it's only now that we're able to fully appreciate how his skills truly fit into Pep's machine. I do hope we never have to see him deployed in a defensive role again. Not just because it was torrid to watch, but because he's just too damn good deployed as part of our perpetual motion machine up top. I have a feeling he'll not be far behind KDB in the assists department if he gets the game time.
The signing of Rodri has helped him enormously as they are both "tickers" but from different areas of the pitch. They give us control and allow others to flourish and with Rodri being more defensive it allows Gundo licence to get in the areas where he can finish and he now has 50 for us, a fair return for a midfielder.
 
The signing of Rodri has helped him enormously as they are both "tickers" but from different areas of the pitch. They give us control and allow others to flourish and with Rodri being more defensive it allows Gundo licence to get in the areas where he can finish and he now has 50 for us, a fair return for a midfielder.
Bang on. I'd like to say I had the vision to see our team evolve as it is now, and with Gundo in it, back when he was getting pelters, but I must confess I'm not innocent in that department. I posted a few critical posts on here, though I stand by much of my assessment in the circumstances, with system and position. The guy did his bit for the team without complaint, even where it didn't suit his game, and has come out the other side reaping the benefits. He seems a fantastic fella and I only wish I had Pep's vision back then.
 
Bang on. I'd like to say I had the vision to see our team evolve as it is now, and with Gundo in it, back when he was getting pelters, but I must confess I'm not innocent in that department. I posted a few critical posts on here, though I stand by much of my assessment in the circumstances, with system and position. The guy did his bit for the team without complaint, even where it didn't suit his game, and has come out the other side reaping the benefits. He seems a fantastic fella and I only wish I had Pep's vision back then.
An unusually frank post. Well said mate.
 
He has been for most of the time one of the "official" scapegoats on this forum. Some "expert" and "high-posting" posters here made sure to promote and cement that. Lately, there has been a feint change of tone due his obvious impact on title wins over the last two seasons in particular. They are just waiting for his next misstep to call it a one-off.
To me he is approaching legend status. His interplay with Haaland on Sat showed us so much. As Pep said, he has this knack of arriving in the 6 yard box at just the right time. With Harland drawing so much attention, have a feeling this won't be the last time we see a Haaland assist to Ilkay (when most would expect the other way around)
 
To me he is approaching legend status. His interplay with Haaland on Sat showed us so much. As Pep said, he has this knack of arriving in the 6 yard box at just the right time. With Harland drawing so much attention, have a feeling this won't be the last time we see a Haaland assist to Ilkay (when most would expect the other way around)
Agreed. He's so clever with how he reads the game as well. Now Rodri is well and truly settled in, and all the defence is watching Haaland and Kev I'm sure he'll find so many little pockets.
 
Instrumental in the 2018-2019 title when filling in for Dinho. I don't even remember how many games we had to win in a row but he was immense.

Instrumental in the 2020-2021 title when playing as the false 9. His goal scoring form was crucial.

Instrumental in the final day of the 2021-2022 title with his brace off the bench.

He's generally been one of our better CL performers and overall a very senior player who's a great presence in the locker room. Now a club captain to boot.

Like someone else said, he's def approaching "legend" status.
 
He was never hopeless. This was an urban myth that occasionally rears its head
He was bordering on being a liability in many games,his fitness,confidence and inability to get around the pitch were a real issue for us as the opposition just ran past him.

The turnaround has been nothing short of amazing,as i have stated at every opportunity since.He has proved to have a strength of character,a will to win,and an ability to inspire that i didnt believe he had in him anymore and that i was wrong to write off.

I would have him in every one my 'best' 11's.
 
He was bordering on being a liability in many games,his fitness,confidence and inability to get around the pitch were a real issue for us as the opposition just ran past him.

The turnaround has been nothing short of amazing,as i have stated at every opportunity since.He has proved to have a strength of character,a will to win,and an ability to inspire that i didnt believe he had in him anymore and that i was wrong to write off.

I would have him in every one my 'best' 11's.
We can disagree on the first part (no problem there) but glad you see his special qualities now.
 
He was bordering on being a liability in many games,his fitness,confidence and inability to get around the pitch were a real issue for us as the opposition just ran past him.

The turnaround has been nothing short of amazing,as i have stated at every opportunity since.He has proved to have a strength of character,a will to win,and an ability to inspire that i didnt believe he had in him anymore and that i was wrong to write off.

I would have him in every one my 'best' 11's.
Liability is harsh , he was coming off the back of two potential career threating injuries.

Gundo arriving at the club with a serious injury but as Pep's first signing should tell you everything about how good he was and is.
 
Liability is harsh , he was coming off the back of two potential career threating injuries.

Gundo arriving at the club with a serious injury but as Pep's first signing should tell you everything about how good he was and is.
Still a liability,whatever the reason.....i only judge by what i see in front of me,the mitigation is irrelevant.

It does speak volumes.......Gundo was amazing at Dortmund,and Pep was clearly hoping,and had confidence,that the player could rediscover that form and replicate it here.

The gamble,calculated,has paid off and more.
 
Still a liability,whatever the reason.....i only judge by what i see in front of me,the mitigation is irrelevant.

It does speak volumes.......Gundo was amazing at Dortmund,and Pep was clearly hoping,and had confidence,that the player could rediscover that form and replicate it here.

The gamble,calculated,has paid off and more.

He arrived with an injury ,a dislocated knee, and couldn't play was that when he was " hopeless", soon as he started playing for us he suffered a cruciate ligament injury and out for a further 11 months, was that the period he was "hopeless".
Just exactly when was his "hopeless " period ?
 
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