Pep Guardiola - 2022/23

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Really find it hard to comprehend his reticence to use subs, given he was one of the keenest advocates for 5 subs. Parficularly this afternoon, when several players could easily have been hooked. And we had Mahrez, Phillips and Alvarez on the bench.
 
jimharri said:
Really find it hard to comprehend his reticence to use subs, given he was one of the keenest advocates for 5 subs. Parficularly this afternoon, when several players could easily have been hooked. And we had Mahrez, Phillips and Alvarez on the bench.
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Would've tried Foden <-> Alvarez myself. Still, we came from 2 goals down today, could easily have been worse.
 
jimharri said:
Really find it hard to comprehend his reticence to use subs, given he was one of the keenest advocates for 5 subs. Parficularly this afternoon, when several players could easily have been hooked. And we had Mahrez, Phillips and Alvarez on the bench.
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Not just subs Jim. I think the tactics played right into the barcodes hands
 
This system was great against West Ham and Bournemouth, cause both teams played defensive football and didn't press a lot..

When teams defend and give you the ball - it's a big bonus to have Gundo and KDB on the pitch, cause they are very dangerous near the opponent's box and that's why we played good games..

Plus we had Grealish who helped us a lot during build-ups..

Today Newcastle didn't give us the ball, they wanted the ball and pressed a lot and we need player like Bernardo near our box to help Rodri and others during build-ups.. There were moments when Ruben had to dribble to somehow take ball to KDB and Gundo, they didn't drop back and even when they dropped made a lot of mistakes.. There were two similar moments after 3-3 when both Gundo and KDB made same mistakes near our box..

And we were lucky it was Newcastle...

Also we have seen this plenty of times.. Rodri-KDB-Gundo midfield has never worked as a long-term solution.. Like I said above, if teams voluntarily are handling us the ball and just defend - it's OK, but there are and will be a lot of teams, who will play aggressively like Newcastle played today and we will suffer..

Defense is the team play.. If zones aren't covered and there spaces left and balls are lost during simple situations - no defender, even world-class ones won't help..
 
was hoping the villa game might break peps nonsense about subs given how effective they were on that day but normal service has resumed lol. Will only make subs if we get a comfortable lead it seems
 
I don't mind Pep not making subs. He's done it plenty of times over the years when we've been getting battered so I pretty much expected it.

But that was not the game to have either fullback coming inside. Newcastle were always going to have more energy and muscle there than us there regardless and it made us vulnerable on the break.
 
mosssideblue said:
Not just subs Jim. I think the tactics played right into the barcodes hands
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Exactly they weren't even that good they just had Saint-Maximin unmarked all game who did the rest. Pep completely ignored that and continued to have Walker play in midfield even when given multiple warning signs and then conceding 3 goals from that side. It was awful.
 
The only reason i can think of pep's reluctance of subs today was that he wanted to give the playing 11 a good workout as we had a limited preseason and they're plenty of games coming up, this is a unique season because of the world cup and clubs would need to come up with a different strategy to cope with number of games before the break
 
As others have said, he went with a parked bus set up today and it failed miserably, baffling he didn’t change it earlier or introduce fresh legs at 3-3 when Newcastle were reeling
 
Citizen in Pakistan said:
The only reason i can think of pep's reluctance of subs today was that he wanted to give the playing 11 a good workout as we had a limited preseason and they're plenty of games coming up, this is a unique season because of the world cup and clubs would need to come up with a different strategy to cope with number of games before the break
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I’d have thought the reasons you give are the reason we should have made subs
 
We have perfect options and players in midfield..

Gundo and KDB who are best near opponent's box

Bernie and Phillips who are better near our box..

Rodri the Godri..

Also, we should consider that both Gundo and KDB are 31+, playing them box on the pitch in every game I hope isn't in Pep's plans, the best decision is to rotate them and do the same thing for Phillips and Bernardo..

Rodri-Phillips-KDB and Rodri-Bernardo-Gundo midfields I think will be perfect and balanced solution to have cover defensively as well as enough creative power near opponent's box to help Haaland score the goals..

Today we lacked this physical energy and fresh legs running at those motherfuckers in midfield.. Rodri was outnumbered..

One thing that makes me wonder - what if Jack Grealish had played and helped us similarly during build-ups like he did against West Ham.. That could have give us some edge.. Pep I think was expecting same thing from Bernardo, but in terms of defensive play and build-ups and etc Bernardo had the shittiest game.. Yes, he scored and assisted, but his power isn't in statistics, he is more of a player who does those unnoticed things and tasks, that makes our system unbreakable, today he was shite in those aspects.. A lot of mistakes..
 
Played inverted fullbacks against the wrong team imo, especially with a less than 100% fit John Stones.

If he tries the same against Palace, Zaha and Eze could run us ragged.

Probably needs to be reminded that we have the opportunity to use substitutes for something other than injuries.

He's a strange fellow.
 
freshie said:
Was obvious that the 2 full backs tucking in wasn't working yet he refused to change the system. Frustrating
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Was it the system that wasn’t working or the players not doing the right things within the system?

He didn’t change it but we got back in the game and could have won it by not changing the system.

I thought the players were poor today, often everything started up for Newcastle with a poor pass from us or a reluctance to make the right pass. Newcastle exploited space where the full backs weren’t occupying but if we hadn’t given the ball away or if we’d made the right pass those situations for Newcastle wouldn’t have occurred.
 
Pep didn't use any substitues as we were still creating chances even though we weren't performing as team. Perhaps if he did it would be counterproductive.
 
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