Match of the Day - 2022/23

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Hehe!! Don't dangle your rod near me.

Keep your chin up, my rod doesn’t aim for people’s heads. ;-)

 

[Groke]

It didn’t. He played 3 days later.

With about 16 stitches ffs.
Are you a wum, scouser, clueless.....or all of the above?

 

[domalino]

Unless Ayew’s elbow is halfway up his radius, it wasn’t an elbow.

Haaland’s high boot wasn’t dissimilar to the Mané red card in the 5-0. People moaned about that being a red card and so they can’t have it both ways.

The speed players are going at is a massive factor in referees decision around excess force and endangering opposition players.

Mané was running full pace into a player ahead of him who was at full height.

Haaland has his back to Anderson, standing still, and it was Anderson moving at pace and dipped his head.


It wasn’t even close to a red card - which is why he didn’t even get a yellow for reckless play.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Mane was running at full tilt towards Eddie and easily could have pulled out of that challenge.

Haaland was pretty much stationary and side on to the defender who came from the blind side and ducked in to the challenge.

But apart from that...

Sure and Mane was airborne and higher.

Yet ex professionals didn’t think it was a red card at the time.

Andersen did duck into the the challenge. To shoulder height.

Him being stationary and having a bent leg certainly helped more than the height of his boot.

 

[jjctid]

So his head didn’t nearly come off, did it?

He couldn’t have played if concussed either.

Figure of speech mate as for concussion he wouldn't be the first to play with it! They play with it after a minute on the touchlines these days.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The speed players are going at is a massive factor in referees decision around excess force and endangering opposition players.

Mané was running full pace into a player ahead of him who was at full height.

Haaland has his back to Anderson, standing still, and it was Anderson moving at pace and dipped his head.


It wasn’t even close to a red card.

If a red card had been given, do you think VAR would have overturned it? Please try and answer without suggesting that VAR is bent against City and of course it wouldn’t have changed the decision.

I’ve already answered about the speed above.

 

[jjctid]

The speed players are going at is a massive factor in referees decision around excess force and endangering opposition players.

Mané was running full pace into a player ahead of him who was at full height.

Haaland has his back to Anderson, standing still, and it was Anderson moving at pace and dipped his head.


It wasn’t even close to a red card.

Wow the common sense reply of the night! Could everyone please take note of this - goodnight.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Figure of speech mate as for concussion he wouldn't be the first to play with it! They play with it after a minute on the touchlines these days.

Lol

 

[Blueknows]

Only motd could keep mention number of touches two programmes running … who cares when your averaging a goal every 53 minutes per game.

Bbc obsessed with Erlings touches this just been put on their sportspage
Is Haaland the final piece of the jigsaw ?
Article goes on to say ...
the club's opening victory at West Ham, Haaland came away from London Stadium with two goals - despite having just 32 touches of the ball.

While City won easily, against Bournemouth he was limited to just eight touches and did not see the ball for 27 minutes in the second half.

However, the problem for defenders as Palace found out to their cost, is he is capable of exploding into life at any second - his three-goal burst against the Eagles coming from seven shots and just 16 touches overall.

 

[domalino]

If a red card had been given, do you think VAR would have overturned it? Please try and answer without suggesting that VAR is bent against City and of course it wouldn’t have changed the decision.

I’ve already answered about the speed above.

It would depend entirely on the conversation between the referee and VAR because VAR doesn’t referees decision the referee has told them he’s seen clearly but I’d expect it to be overturned.

Remember, for it to be a red card he has to be deemed to be using excessive force, and given he was simply trying to bring a ball down while standing still and Anderson is the one who initiates contact by moving towards the ball to head it, it’s very hard to justify it being excessive.

I would expect any decent VAR to look at the fact Anderson is the one moving towards the contact and realise it’s nothing more than a foul.

I don’t think you will find an example of a player being sent off for this when they aren’t running into the high footed challenge and collide with a defender standing still.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Also they had to mention the Ederson throw out but like you said not a mention of the forearm into Cancelo's face that was right in front of the linesman!

Interesting that they were confused with the keeper passing it out as we all know that you can’t interfere.

MotD purposely obfuscated the rules so that the viewer thought that something was wrong.

Why?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It would depend entirely on the conversation between the referee and VAR but I’d expect it to be overturned.

Remember, for it to be a red card he has to be deemed to be using excessive force, and given he was simply trying to bring a ball down while standing still and Anderson is the one who initiates contact by moving towards the ball to head it, it’s very hard to justify it being excessive.

I would expect any decent VAR to look at the fact Anderson is the one moving towards the contact and realise it’s nothing more than a foul.

I would like to say that I’m not suggesting it should have been a red card. I’m merely trying to say that if it had been given, you could make an argument for it being one.

A shoulder height boot is always going to provoke debate if it collides with a head, which is what MOTD did and concluded it wasn’t a red card.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Interesting that they were confused with the keeper passing it out as we all know that you can’t interfere.

MotD purposely obfuscated the rules so that the viewer thought that something was wrong.

Why?

Because it’s not conclusive as to whether the ball had completely left Ederson‘s glove or not. If it had, then it should be a goal and if it hadn’t, it’s a foul.

The referee deemed it hadn’t and blew his whistle before VAR could intervene.

 

[domalino]

Because it’s not conclusive as to whether the ball had completely left Ederson‘s glove or not. If it had, then it should be a goal and if it hadn’t, it’s a foul.

The referee deemed it hadn’t and blew his whistle before VAR could intervene.

They have access to 40+ camera angles and only showed one. If they wanted to verify the decision they could easily have done so.

 

[mattcity5]

Does this mean that only tackles that cause serious injury should be red card offences?

It means when a player is running full speed and going studs up at someone's face, they're more likely to cause damage than a player standing still and raising a boot to try and bring the ball down.

Huge difference in force. Huge difference in risk to the player.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

They have access to 40+ camera angles and only showed one. If they wanted to verify the decision they could easily have done so.

Who do? MOTD? Only the ex-striker who would do that kind of thing when playing and an ex-Palace player thought it should be given and that was without scrutinising it, as you might be suggesting.

 

[simmo]

Bbc obsessed with Erlings touches this just been put on their sportspage
Is Haaland the final piece of the jigsaw ?
Article goes on to say ...
the club's opening victory at West Ham, Haaland came away from London Stadium with two goals - despite having just 32 touches of the ball.

While City won easily, against Bournemouth he was limited to just eight touches and did not see the ball for 27 minutes in the second half.

However, the problem for defenders as Palace found out to their cost, is he is capable of exploding into life at any second - his three-goal burst against the Eagles coming from seven shots and just 16 touches overall.

Be more informative of them if they referenced the top goal scorers and minutes per goal that they quote on their webpage. The articles are written so narrow.

At the rate of goals Haaland will be pushing goal a game at this rate and they will still be saying he’s scored 35 but in half the matches he touched it a handful of times.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Are you a Ric bot?

If not, you’re an arse licking twat. Please Sir, look at me.

I think it’s Pigeonho

 

[Blueknows]

After a lengthy check it's not given ...lol course they did

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It means when a player is running full speed and going studs up at someone's face, they're more likely to cause damage than a player standing still and raising a boot to try and bring the ball down.

Huge difference in force. Huge difference in risk to the player.

Sure, but his answer suggested that Mané was sent off because of the injury suffered. That’s not right.

Whenever a boot connects with a head 5 feet off the ground, there will be a discussion about it.

I‘m not sure anyone has actually suggested it should have been a red card though.