Match of the Day - 2022/23

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Silva&Silva said:
Liverpool have just matched the highest scoring record for a single PL game and yet their fans are still talking about City...

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I tried to discuss the two incidents before, but they’re totally different. One is at full pace and airborne and the other isn’t.

You can see why they want to compare the two incidents though as the boot impact is similar.
 
hutton who blue said:
We're all aware we won and happy for it what I was highlighting amongst others was the discrepancy when reporting on Manchester City.
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It probably happens with other teams too if the result isn’t changed because of the decision.

It’s British culture to cheer for the underdog.

It’s why we were everybody’s second team until we became the best team in the world.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with how they should be refereed.
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I think - and it’s been a while, and I don’t remember exactly - that Mané wasn’t sent off for endangering an opponent, but for violent conduct, in that he kicked Ederson in the head - a fact medical evidence can support. Haaland may have been endangering an opponent with a high foot, but he won the ball, so has absolutely everything to do with how they should be refereed - because they’re two different offences.
 
DenisHasDoneIt said:
I think - and it’s been a while, and I don’t remember exactly - that Mané wasn’t sent off for endangering an opponent, but for violent conduct, in that he kicked Ederson in the head - a fact medical evidence can support. Haaland may have been endangering an opponent with a high foot, but he won the ball, so has absolutely everything to do with how they should be refereed - because they’re two different offences.
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It had to be the violent conduct element. If the ref today had done the same, it’d been hard for the VAR to disagree.

Ederson got stretchered off, but was fit to play the next game with a few butterfly stitches. Andersen was able to carry on.

It’s a fine balance though. Players can score worldies bicycle-kicking a volley home at head height or they can be sent off for a full speed trying to trap the ball at 5 feet in the air.

Both need to be allowed to be correct decisions as we want bicycle kicks and we don’t want players leading with their studs 5 feet in the air to trap a ball.

It wasn’t a red card offence today from Haaland, but I can see why there is a discussion about it.
 
The two incidents are similar in that they both involve a foot and a head, but then they diverge dramatically.

Anderson was faking “injury” in an attempt to get Haaland in trouble. Hell, he even had to point to the spot on his head gir the Physio, who was looking at his head thinking “You soft bastard, you’re making yourself look like a right twat!”

One was a studs up, head on challenge against an on-rushing keeper. The other was a player reaching for a ball as another player COMES FROM BEHIND HIM to head the ball!

About the ONLY similarity from a footballing perspective are that a boot, a head and a ball were all included in the event!
 
Robinho's Subbuteo said:
Mane has both feet off the ground and therefore has no control whatsoever.
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Mane was facing Ederson, could see everything in front of him and still challenged with both feet off the ground which led to Ederson being injured & substituted. Haaland was trying to bring the ball down with one foot whilst the other was anchored on the pitch whilst looking away from Anderson who came from behind trying to head the ball away.
Totally different but it’s great we are in their heads
 
Silva&Silva said:
Liverpool have just matched the highest scoring record for a single PL game and yet their fans are still talking about City...

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You can tell the difference even from the stills cited as 'evidence'. You'd have to know little to nothing about football as a physical game and treat it more like some cult like experience to equate these incidents. Oh hang on...
 
So MoD highlight the Ederson and Haaland "incidents" as both controversially going in City's favour whereas they chose to ignore the forearm smash into Cancelo's face ( which led to the second goal ) But why no comment about CP's first goal ? The ball comes in from the free kick and it appears to be deflected onto Stones's knee off the CP forward's hand and so on into the net . All the City defenders claim a "handball" but evidently VAR sees no need to investigate. The commentator says it deflected off Walker's elbow. Looking at it many times in slow-mo , I'd certainly vote for the CP's player hand ( the City defenders certainly thought so )

And following the novel interpretation of offside for St Marcus's goal against the Dippers it was equally bizarre how the experts interpreted McTominay playing "keepy-uppy" of the ball with his arms , in the Southampton game, as not being a penalty. I rather think we'll see a lot of VAR and PIGMOL keeping the Rags relevant this season !
 
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