The British Monarchy

Bill Walker said:
Sadly looking from afar Britain seems pretty divided these days.

Brexit, the vote split the country and blame and anger rumbles on.

Monarchy, since the queen's death, it appears there is division, even this microcosm of a thread shows under 50% support for the monarchy.

Scotland, do they want out of the UK ?

Does the north south divide still exist ?

And of course everyone who's not rich hates the Tories. :)
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We are absolutely divided.
 
Bill Walker said:
Sadly looking from afar Britain seems pretty divided these days.

Brexit, the vote split the country and blame and anger rumbles on.

Monarchy, since the queen's death, it appears there is division, even this microcosm of a thread shows under 50% support for the monarchy.

Scotland, do they want out of the UK ?

Does the north south divide still exist ?

And of course everyone who's not rich hates the Tories. :)
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divide and conquer. the possibility of political revolution diminishes with every cut.
 
I'd say it is extremely fanciful myself. After 10 days relentlessly projecting the idea of an entire nation in grief now we have the notion that the funeral itself drew a line over any lingering regret people may have over burying loved ones during lockdown.



On top of that I've just seen a clip of Burley grilling some hapless Labour front bencher about whether it's appropriate for a fringe republican event to take part at their conference in 'the current' climate.

So much for moving on.
 
Postman Pep said:
I'd say it is extremely fanciful myself. After 10 days relentlessly projecting the idea of an entire nation in grief now we have the notion that the funeral itself drew a line over any lingering regret people may have over burying loved ones during lockdown.



On top of that I've just seen a clip of Burley grilling some hapless Labour front bencher about whether it's appropriate for a fringe republican event to take part at their conference in 'the current' climate.

So much for moving on.
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Postman Pep said:
I'd say it is extremely fanciful myself. After 10 days relentlessly projecting the idea of an entire nation in grief now we have the notion that the funeral itself drew a line over any lingering regret people may have over burying loved ones during lockdown.



On top of that I've just seen a clip of Burley grilling some hapless Labour front bencher about whether it's appropriate for a fringe republican event to take part at their conference in 'the current' climate.

So much for moving on.
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Written by Caitlin Moran. Interestingly another Caitlin Moran, an aboriginal rugby league player has had a slightly less positive take on the queen.
 
Postman Pep said:
I'd say it is extremely fanciful myself. After 10 days relentlessly projecting the idea of an entire nation in grief now we have the notion that the funeral itself drew a line over any lingering regret people may have over burying loved ones during lockdown.



On top of that I've just seen a clip of Burley grilling some hapless Labour front bencher about whether it's appropriate for a fringe republican event to take part at their conference in 'the current' climate.

So much for moving on.
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If it wasn't for the fact that The Queen had to bury her husband very publicly, without family, I'd say the suggestion wasn't just fanciful, but would be offensive.

Given that her husband did die during the Covid restrictions, then I can just about see the argument, if I squint, and can maybe appreciate that it was one of the few times where privilege didn't help The Queen, and that many who had to do the same will genuinely sympathise with her.

The article itself is pretty long, and a lot less serious and reverential than the tweet makes it sound.
 
robbieh said:
Written by Caitlin Moran. Interestingly another Caitlin Moran, an aboriginal rugby league player has had a slightly less positive take on the queen.
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Ginger hair though. Mixed with convicts perhaps. Not still bitter about her ancestors getting sent to the other side of the world is she?
 
bluenova said:
If it wasn't for the fact that The Queen had to bury her husband very publicly, without family, I'd say the suggestion wasn't just fanciful, but would be offensive.

Given that her husband did die during the Covid restrictions, then I can just about see the argument, if I squint, and can maybe appreciate that it was one of the few times where privilege didn't help The Queen, and that many who had to do the same will genuinely sympathise with her.

The article itself is pretty long, and a lot less serious and reverential than the tweet makes it sound.
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It did. She was offered an exemption. She just chose not to cash those chips in.

Whether she declined it because of her duty to public service or because she felt it necessary to the preserve the institution, we can only speculate. We will never know.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
It did. She was offered an exemption. She just chose not to cash those chips in.

Whether she declined it because of her duty to public service or because she felt it necessary to the preserve the institution, we can only speculate. We will never know.
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Ultimately it doesn't make a huge difference - and not sure those two motives are mutually exclusive.

I have no love at all for the monarchy, but plenty clearly do, and if you were a supporter of The Queen then I can see how her actions when her husband died could resonate.
 
bluenova said:
If it wasn't for the fact that The Queen had to bury her husband very publicly, without family, I'd say the suggestion wasn't just fanciful, but would be offensive.

Given that her husband did die during the Covid restrictions, then I can just about see the argument, if I squint, and can maybe appreciate that it was one of the few times where privilege didn't help The Queen, and that many who had to do the same will genuinely sympathise with her.

The article itself is pretty long, and a lot less serious and reverential than the tweet makes it sound.
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I'll take your word for the rest of the piece as I haven't read it. If that's the context fair enough, it's reasonable to assume some people feel that way. Projecting that onto 'millions', as a widely shared collective experience however is something else.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
It did. She was offered an exemption. She just chose not to cash those chips in.

Whether she declined it because of her duty to public service or because she felt it necessary to the preserve the institution, we can only speculate. We will never know.
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She did it because everyone else had to stick to the rules and she was head of state and understood she should lead
 
From what I remember of Prince Phillips funeral there was at least 100 or so people there ?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
People love watching the pomp, I doubt many under 60 have a royal teatowel.
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I don't know any over 60 who have one either! :-)
Plus I promise you @Alan Harper's Tash I will never demand your respect on anyone's funeral day (even mine) *chuckles*

This is for everyone so please don't think I am preaching to you AHT.

Live and let live are my thoughts. The world has enough angst without us falling out over whether folk should respect/love/mourn the Queen or any member of the Royal Family.
Time for the Blues to batten down the hatches ready for the visit of some miserable so and so's from Trafford!! :-)

If I offend anyone with this post I apologise. :-)
 
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