10 | Jack Grealish - 2022/23 Performances

[Lauz9888]

 

[MarsLlama]

Fans: Grealish needs to get more goals and assists
Pundits: Grealish needs to get more goals and assists
Grealish: I need to get more goals and assists


People on here: He's not here to get goals and assists



You'd have thought that Jack himself admitting that he needs to up his output would put to bed this idea that output is an unreasonable expectation of him.

That said I doubt he's leaving next summer. Transfer journalism is almost all bullshit.

 

[Keeper!]

The transfer story is utter bullshit for many reasons but even if it was true we would take a massive hit on his value.

The initial fee was crazy and he is also on a huge contract that only a handful of clubs could afford and whatever anyone says he simply as of today has not justified either, that's a simple cold hard fact.

 

[domalino]

The Marmite factor definitely....but the two are different in their approach to our shirt and the opportunity presented to them.

It’s really weird how you keep writing comments like this. It’s as if you think if you say the lie enough times people will start to believe Sterling never tried in a City shirt.

 

[domalino]

Fans: Grealish needs to get more goals and assists
Pundits: Grealish needs to get more goals and assists
Grealish: I need to get more goals and assists


People on here: He's not here to get goals and assists



You'd have thought that Jack himself admitting that he needs to up his output would put to bed this idea that output is an unreasonable expectation of him.

That said I doubt he's leaving next summer. Transfer journalism is almost all bullshit.

You missed out

Pep - I really don’t give a fuck about his goals and assist numbers

 

[youngbob]

The Marmite factor definitely....but the two are different in their approach to our shirt and the opportunity presented to them.

This is nonsense, mate. The difference between Sterling in 15/16 and Sterling in 17/18 was incredible. He worked hard, very fucking hard, to become as good as he did. People who don't work hard for the team don't last long under Pep.

 

[Craig]

You missed out

Pep - I really don’t give a fuck about his goals and assist numbers

Believe that you’ll believe anything. Pep will always back his players in public. He knows if he says Jack needs to score and assist more it will add even scrutiny on him.

 

[eastmanc]

Fans: Grealish needs to get more goals and assists
Pundits: Grealish needs to get more goals and assists
Grealish: I need to get more goals and assists


People on here: He's not here to get goals and assists



You'd have thought that Jack himself admitting that he needs to up his output would put to bed this idea that output is an unreasonable expectation of him.

That said I doubt he's leaving next summer. Transfer journalism is almost all bullshit.

He is here to get goals and assists. The last match against Wolves he played well, he needs to keep that level and contribute to the team more.

 

[domalino]

Believe that you’ll believe anything. Pep will always back his players in public. He knows if he says Jack needs to score and assist more it will add even scrutiny on him.

That would almost be a worthwhile point except for the fact Pep said publicly that Jesus, Sané and Sterling all needed to score more goals when they were in dry patches.

In fact I remember him saying the same about Bernardo too, that he needed to score more goals to decide games.

So any notion Pep wouldn’t comment on Grealish needing to score more because he is compelled to defend his players in public is provably false, he’s done it loads.


Not that anything like a long history of doing something will stop some posters thinking everything the man says is a quadruple bluff smokescreen that can only be believed when it backs up their argument…

 

[Craig]

That would almost be a worthwhile point except for the fact Pep said publicly that Jesus, Sané and Sterling all needed to score more goals when they were in dry patches.

In fact I remember him saying the same about Bernardo too, that he needed to score more goals to decide games.

So any notion Pep wouldn’t comment on Grealish needing to score more because he is compelled to defend his players in public is provably false, he’s done it loads.


Not that anything like a long history of doing something will stop some posters thinking everything the man says is a quadruple bluff smokescreen that can only be believed when it backs up their argument…

Funny how when we needed goals and assists Jack got subbed against Dortmund. Surprised Pep didn’t say keep holding the ball Jack and playing square passes. Jesus was supposed to be a striker so needed to score more goals in our side to keep that position vacated by the greatest striker in our history. Sterling’s all round game was at best average so goals were the way he could justify his place. Grealish is a class footballer so isn’t going to have many days like Sterling where his first touch is poor and basic passes keep going astray.

To say he doesn’t need to start contributing more goals and assists though is ludicrous. Saturday was a big improvement that everyone could see.

 

[FantasyIreland]

This is nonsense, mate. The difference between Sterling in 15/16 and Sterling in 17/18 was incredible. He worked hard, very fucking hard, to become as good as he did. People who don't work hard for the team don't last long under Pep.

Your opinion....i never got the impression the lad was fully invested.I think Grealish is.

 

[domalino]

This is nonsense, mate. The difference between Sterling in 15/16 and Sterling in 17/18 was incredible. He worked hard, very fucking hard, to become as good as he did. People who don't work hard for the team don't last long under Pep.

The one man attempt to rewrite history to say Sterling never tried or fought in a City shirt is such a ridiculous insult to Guardiola and all of the players that Sterling was picked ahead of for 6 years.

 

[youngbob]

Your opinion....i never got the impression the lad was fully invested.I think Grealish is.

Not just my opinion. Pep's too. Sterling played for 6 seasons under Pep and started the majority of matches he was available for. If you don't work hard, Pep stops trusting you. The system we play doesn't work if the forward line doesn't press high for 90 minutes, and you can't press high and win league titles if you're not fully invested.

Sterling's "emotional connection" to the fans might not have been as strong as other players' but that's a completely separate issue. That's more to do with how he sees football as a means to an end. He was as emotionally connected to City as he was to QPR and Liverpool (and will be to Chelsea). That doesn't mean he wasn't fully invested in the team.

Whatever his emotional connection to the fans, Sterling was, at the very least, an incredibly consummate professional throughout his time here. He was never on the front pages, he kept his head down, he improved his game massively for City. He scored two goals in an important game immediately after being racially assaulted, for fuck's sake.

I'd understand your opinion a little more if it was about someone we signed as a squad player, who played about 80 games over three seasons and then left to go somewhere else. Someone like Javi Garcia, Fernando, or Martin Demichelis. But Sterling played nearly 350 times for City, scored over 100 goals, and won a skipload of trophies.

You don't play (and score, and win) that many times for the best team in the country if you're not fully invested.

Sterling wasn't even a Pep signing. Think of all the outfield players from the Pellegrini/Mancini eras that Pep immediately (or almost immediately) got rid of: Nasri, Bony, Navas, Clichy, Sagna, Kolarov, Iheanacho. Sterling survived a massive cull for a reason, and it was because Pep recognised his commitment to the team.

Was Sterling a better player than Nasri in terms of natural ability? Of course he wasn't. But Pep knew Nasri wasn't fully invested so he got rid sharpish. And then think about the players Pep's actually signed and spent money on who have then been sold on because he lost faith in them: Nolito, Danilo, Leroy, Angelino, Torres.

For one reason or another, Sterling definitely wasn't the same player after spring 2021. It's since come out that there was a disagreement between him and Pep around that time. But he turned his form around and was absolutely essential to us winning the title last season. You don't manage that if you're not fully invested.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Another day, another load of Sterling revisionism on another player's thread.
Maybe a retrospective statue?

 

[asahartford1]

Not just my opinion. Pep's too. Sterling played for 6 seasons under Pep and started the majority of matches he was available for. If you don't work hard, Pep stops trusting you. The system we play doesn't work if the forward line doesn't press high for 90 minutes, and you can't press high and win league titles if you're not fully invested.

Sterling's "emotional connection" to the fans might not have been as strong as other players' but that's a completely separate issue. That's more to do with how he sees football as a means to an end. He was as emotionally connected to City as he was to QPR and Liverpool (and will be to Chelsea). That doesn't mean he wasn't fully invested in the team.

Whatever his emotional connection to the fans, Sterling was, at the very least, an incredibly consummate professional throughout his time here. He was never on the front pages, he kept his head down, he improved his game massively for City. He scored two goals in an important game immediately after being racially assaulted, for fuck's sake.

I'd understand your opinion a little more if it was about someone we signed as a squad player, who played about 80 games over three seasons and then left to go somewhere else. Someone like Javi Garcia, Fernando, or Martin Demichelis. But Sterling played nearly 350 times for City, scored over 100 goals, and won a skipload of trophies.

You don't play (and score, and win) that many times for the best team in the country if you're not fully invested.

Sterling wasn't even a Pep signing. Think of all the outfield players from the Pellegrini/Mancini eras that Pep immediately (or almost immediately) got rid of: Nasri, Bony, Navas, Clichy, Sagna, Kolarov, Iheanacho. Sterling survived a massive cull for a reason, and it was because Pep recognised his commitment to the team.

Was Sterling a better player than Nasri in terms of natural ability? Of course he wasn't. But Pep knew Nasri wasn't fully invested so he got rid sharpish. And then think about the players Pep's actually signed and spent money on who have then been sold on because he lost faith in them: Nolito, Danilo, Leroy, Angelino, Torres.

For one reason or another, Sterling definitely wasn't the same player after spring 2020. It's since come out that there was a disagreement between him and Pep around that time. But he turned his form around and was absolutely essential to us winning the title last season. You don't manage that if you're not fully invested.

People cannot attack his stats, or the fact that Pep wanted him in his team for so long that they make up non meaning clichés like " not fully invested" can't be proved or disproved so best to ignore.

 

[Devil's Advocate]

For one reason or another, Sterling definitely wasn't the same player after spring 2020. It's since come out that there was a disagreement between him and Pep around that time. But he turned his form around and was absolutely essential to us winning the title last season. You don't manage that if you're not fully invested.

It was the following year - spring 2021.
He was then totally out of favour at the start of last season.
Raz started just 4 of the first 15 PL & CL group games.
Jack started 13 out of the 15.

Raz then came back, showed his usual commitment and professionalism,scored goals, had a series of great games and played most minutes along with Phil in the front 5 rotation up until the end. Or nearly the end because there was probably another fall out around CL semi-final time.

 

[youngbob]

It was the following year - spring 2021.
He was then totally out of favour at the start of last season.
Raz started just 4 of the first 15 PL & CL group games.
Jack started 13 out of the 15.

Raz then came back, showed his usual commitment and professionalism,scored goals, had a series of great games and played most minutes along with Phil in the front 5 rotation up until the end. Or nearly the end because there was probably another fall out around CL semi-final time.

That was it, sorry. I did mean 2021. Bloody lockdown collapsed time.

 

[cinnamon]

 

[tommybooth]

Is the latest bollocks that Jack is off?

 

[Bill Walker]

A lot of people get caught into.. omg its on twitter, it must be true.

RELAX.. Think about it yourself and the facts are:

1. City aren't stupid!

2. Unless he asks to leave and Villa offer the same 100 mil back, he's not going anywhere!

3. If its not Villa who'll he go to? PSG? Madrid? Barca? Chelsea?

Who'll shell out the money for him?

Answer:

Odds are he stays put for his contract even if he's not happy in Manchester (just like Bernardo).

Maybe Newcastle ?