Is it Labour's time?

Corky said:
You are why the tories have been in power so long.
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He's really not. The tories have been in power so long because the Labour party made itself unelectable when it dabbled with Corbin & Momentum. It turned away from the centre ground - which is where all GE's are won/lost and from its w/c, industrial roots - and turned itself into a plaything for liberal identitarian middle class twats in the South, ie the sort of background that Corbin & his wacko brother are from.

And, barring huge fuck ups, this is why the tories will continue to be in power unless Labour starts to appeal to people beyond the 'Tory cunts' echo chambers of forums like this one and twatter.
 
Rascal said:
It is negative democracy; I want to use my vote to vote for something that I believe in, not something I do not. Voting least worst is a dreadful usage of democracy. I would rather be true to my beliefs.
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Fuck harrumphing about your stupid "beliefs" and have a good long think about other people and how you can perhaps make their lives a bit easier.
 
mickster2 said:
He's really not. The tories have been in power so long because the Labour party made itself unelectable when it dabbled with Corbin & Momentum. It turned away from the centre ground - which is where all GE's are won/lost and from its w/c, industrial roots - and turned itself into a plaything for liberal identitarian middle class twats in the South, ie the sort of background that Corbin & his wacko brother are from.

And, barring huge fuck ups, this is why the tories will continue to be in power unless Labour starts to appeal to people beyond the 'Tory cunts' echo chambers of forums like this one and twatter.
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Everything’s going swimmingly atm isn’t it! Go Tories!
 
mickster2 said:
He's really not. The tories have been in power so long because the Labour party made itself unelectable when it dabbled with Corbin & Momentum. It turned away from the centre ground - which is where all GE's are won/lost and from its w/c, industrial roots - and turned itself into a plaything for liberal identitarian middle class twats in the South, ie the sort of background that Corbin & his wacko brother are from.

And, barring huge fuck ups, this is why the tories will continue to be in power unless Labour starts to appeal to people beyond the 'Tory cunts' echo chambers of forums like this one and twatter.
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Rascal is to the left of Corbyn-politick, so he very much is part of why the Tories get in as he believes that current Labour are just as bad, yet the rest of us know that they would be infinitely less damaging, without being anywhere near perfect.
 
Starmer has all the personality and warmth of a white dog turd.

Armageddon, come Armageddon
Come, Armageddon, come
 
city2 said:
Would you vote for Labour if a general election was called, have the tories had their time.
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No to the first part. Yes is the answer to the second bit but I suspect they still have a chance of winning when they should be dead and buried.
 
Rascal said:
It is negative democracy; I want to use my vote to vote for something that I believe in, not something I do not. Voting least worst is a dreadful usage of democracy. I would rather be true to my beliefs.
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If you find others willing to cough up mate, I'm happy to increase it. If you get the deposit back you have to take us out for a curry or pub crawl though.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
No and yes in that order...

I have not a clue who I can vote for. As time moves on all political parties are becoming more and more untenable.

I will go to vote but will probably end uo spoiling my ballot paper unless there is an option for "none of the above"
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I completely understand your POV, I have shared it for a long time. But….

times are now SO dire, and the outlook for people like me and my family are SO terrible, and the disgust for, and hatred of, people like me from the Tory govt is SO apparent that I have changed my position. Labour HAVE to win the next GE.

NEVER LET PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF GOOD.
 
No, because it's a wasted vote here. But it is imperative that this lot are got rid of so that, if nothing else the undemocratic voting system can be looked at.
 
The shadow chancellor gave a good speech yesterday and what they intend to do if they were elected, I know they all make promises that they hardly ever keep but the tories are not working for the majority of people in this country. So I am willing to give them a chance.
 
mickster2 said:
He's really not. The tories have been in power so long because the Labour party made itself unelectable when it dabbled with Corbin & Momentum. It turned away from the centre ground - which is where all GE's are won/lost and from its w/c, industrial roots - and turned itself into a plaything for liberal identitarian middle class twats in the South, ie the sort of background that Corbin & his wacko brother are from.

And, barring huge fuck ups, this is why the tories will continue to be in power unless Labour starts to appeal to people beyond the 'Tory cunts' echo chambers of forums like this one and twatter.
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You can play the "all as bad as each other" line and not vote then complain.

There is no perfect part for anyone.
 
Just think, we’re asking the question prior to any of the big issues really kicking in. We’re only at the beginning of this, minds will change.
 
I'll be voting for whichever party gets rid of the Tories, that will be Labour in my area.

Ultimately though the political system needs reforming, we should be voting for people we want, not voting for someone because we don't want someone else.

I fear that the Tories have broken this country though, the latest stint they've done may have caused irreparable damage.

If Labour get in they have to make big changes to protect us from the Tories regaining power.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just seen someone on Twitter say that the Corbynites would rather have a Conservative government than a Labour one under Starmer.

I thought that was somewhat hyperbolic but fear it wasn't.
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If you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem in my eyes.
 
You can imagine the kind of messaging in labour HQ this morning.

“Look everyone, We’ve got them on the ropes, biggest poll lead in yougov history, big policy announcement from Kier today, so everyone just stay on message and don’t do anything stupid to take the focus off how badly Truss and Kwarteng have misjudged this budget.”

6 hours later …





Fucking classic divided labour move. Start a race row that casts the most unpopular man in the country in a sympathetic light and steal headlines from the leaders massive policy announcement.
 
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