Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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oldius said:
Very unhappy today on RAWK, all week actually.

This is a post about Pep's response to the 6-3:

He is the mouth piece for a despotic regime. Do you expect him to be reasonable and rational?
He knows what the club have done, he knows he will always be able to buy any player on the planet as the owners only have to create another false company to ‘sponsor’ Man City the required funds.
He is smug and comfortable with how city have got where they are. He was banned for being a drug cheat in his playing days after all.
His meltdowns are because he can’t cope with competition. Liverpool have competed in recent years and he , and Abu Dhabi, didn’t like it. If Haaland didn’t work out, there would’ve been a raft of new ‘companies’ sponsoring them the funds needed for Mbappe, then the next one and the next one.
The city fans will continue their mental gymnastics to assure themselves that them buying the league and killing any kind of competitiveness is no different to Liverpool’s and United’s periods of dominance. They will never allow themselves to acknowledge the differences.
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Hahaha.

The cult fanbase has been destroyed. All dominant periods have 1 thing in common…money and lots of it.

The mentality muts have thrown in the towel. The hacking, thieving cunts have no self awareness.

Thanks for posting @oldius.

Now anyone who is struggling mentally with city winning and big erling destroying football clubs dreams, put your hand up? Anyone? Hello? Lol

Dipshits.
 
That RAWK is an extremely weird site. It has to be bots on there? Surely even the dippers aren't that stupid, unintelligent, hateful and factually wrong 99pc of the time?
 
Manchester_lalala said:
I thinks he become my most hated player, which takes some doing. Smug fucker when things are going well for him, which hasn’t been the case for a while now. When they beat us at Wembley in April he was a smug fucker then smirking in front of the City end. Sometimes I still wish we had Sane, he loved ripping him to bits.
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I hope Jack or Phil rips the tw@t to pieces in a couple of weeks.
 
Big Pussy Bonpensiero said:
That RAWK is an extremely weird site. It has to be bots on there? Surely even the dippers aren't that stupid, unintelligent, hateful and factually wrong 99pc of the time?
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Yes it is and no, that's your average global dipper. Even the genuine dipper fans I know think that site is a shower of fucking madness.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
I thinks he become my most hated player, which takes some doing. Smug fucker when things are going well for him, which hasn’t been the case for a while now. When they beat us at Wembley in April he was a smug fucker then smirking in front of the City end. Sometimes I still wish we had Sane, he loved ripping him to bits.
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If I remember correctly it was TAA who crocked Sane in the Charity Shield costing him almost a full season out of his career.
I am sure our current players can give him a roasting when we play them - just hope they survive the encounter unscathed.
 
Ive never seen bitterness like it over there on rawk, same recycled shite day in day out
365 days a year.
The majority off em still dont get why most of this countries fanbase fucking hate em.
If any or all of the bullshit they write about us was true they would still be hated by everyone.

Even the rags dont compare to them for bitterness.

I work with loads of scousers and the sheer mention of their beloved team losing or playing badly turns them into seething spitting chest out psychos.

I guess life as a scouser has been so bad over the years that football is all they have left.
 
danielwood5 said:
I think 'fair and square' is pushing it when a lot of points were gained by fooling and pressurising weak and confidence drained referees. They gained a LOT of points by diving, handballing, kicking, pushing and various other acts of assorted shithousery, it's easy to play with confidence when you know you can get a free kick or penalty whenever you need one.
They may have still won the league without VAR but "fair and square"? Not for me. When a team's main game plan is to create contact and deceive the referee then "fair and square" doesn't come into it.
The best I can say is that they took advantage of a unique refereeing situation and made sure they made the most of any advantage they were offered whether it was within the rules of the game or in the spirit of fair play or not (usually not).
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I‘d be more likely to agree with you if it was anywhere near close.

They were 20 odd points ahead and even the most VAR is corrupt lunatics would be pushed to find a 25 point swing.
 
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the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Goal disallowed for a "push on a defender" (about as obvious as the Frontzec penalty for the rags) when Southampton would've gone 1-0 up.
Numerous "accidental" handballs ignored in build-up to goals for.
Playing "fergie time" to get (and score) late "dived and won" penalties against Leicester.
Strange refereeing decisions against Chelsea. Equalizers being disallowed for being mm's offside "in the build up".
Strange going's on against us.
The list is almost endless for that season

People's memories of how favorably they were reffed that season astonishes me.
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That’s a maximum of 9 points less (apart from your unsubstantiated “numerous” accidental handballs).

We need to double the amount of points lost before you could argue that VAR won them the league that year.

It’s beautiful that they couldn’t be there to celebrate it.
 
jamesha said:
If I remember correctly it was TAA who crocked Sane in the Charity Shield costing him almost a full season out of his career.
I am sure our current players can give him a roasting when we play them - just hope they survive the encounter unscathed.
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He'll be at right back if fit. That little brummie shitebag should take him to shreds and I hope he fucking does.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
That’s a maximum of 9 points less (apart from your unsubstantiated “numerous” accidental handballs).

We need to double the amount of points lost before you could argue that VAR won them the league that year.

It’s beautiful that they couldn’t be there to celebrate it.
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VAR didn't win them the league, but it and favorable refereeing most definitely aided them in their quest IMO.

My list was from my memories (without doing any extra research) of another team's matches in which dubious decisions went in their favour from almost 3 years ago!! Do you expect me to reel off every incident? Would you like the minutes they happened in and who was the ref as well?

The fact that I can, off the top of my head, remember 5 or 6 incidents that caused me to question the even-handedness of the officiating (can't remember which games but I also remember a VVD handball and a Henderson handball in the buildup to goals) speaks volumes, to me at least.

I suppose Pep's first year in charge didn't cause you to raise an enquiring eyebrow with regards to refereeing double standards either?
 
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JULES said:
this is a good one........

If that clause is true (even if its not club-specific), then it shows Halaand was already thinking of life beyond City. Lets face it - City are hardly a destination club, and one of the European giants will always be more tempting for players who can pretty much choose where they want to go next.

Hopefully the freak Viking man-baby leaves in 2024, as I'm sick of hearing about him already (although I'm sure people said the same about Torres, Suarez and Mo in their first season with us). Despite Halaand's clear talent, I don't think he'll be the difference maker for them in Europe (as they hope he'll be), as it's a completely different competition to the league. They don't have a problem scoring goals in Europe - they have a problem with tactics and mentality under pressure, and Pep has already shown he doesn't yet know how to navigate the competition properly with City (or set his teams up). The only time they've reached the final is when they had an easy route - a group containing Marseille, Olympiakos and Porto, and then Borussia Monchengladbach, Dortmund, and PSG (also serial bottlers) in the knockout stages. Then they bottled the final against Chelsea.

In the other years under Guardiola they've been comprehensively outplayed and knocked out by us 5-1 on aggregate, and knocked out by teams like Lyon, Spurs and Monaco (who you possibly wouldn't expect to even get past the group stages). They might well be flat track bullies in the premier league (against anyone but us), and regularly do well in domestic cups against piss easy opposition (except for last year...), but Europe is totally different (and they only beat us in the league cup final in 2016 because Jurgen hadn't yet built his team). They are serial bottlers and mentality midgets in the CL and I don't see that changing - even with Haaland.

Next summer will be 15 years since Guardiola took over at Barcelona, and he's won only 2 CL trophies in that time - the last one as far back as 2011. It took Bob Paisley 4 seasons to match that achievement (and only another 3 seasons to better it).

They've collectively shit themselves in Europe on so many occasions, and when up against any opposition that are better than the teams they play every week, they suddenly don't look as good. Even average European teams from the top 5 leagues have shown up City's vulnerabilities, by simply being far more brave over a two leg knockout tie than the majority of PL teams (that usually roll over for them). They'll still get 5-0's against the FC Copenhagens of this world, but then so can all the other top clubs. Let's see how Halaand does in Europe against a Bayern, Real Madrid, or Milan defence (or against us) before worrying about them finally winning a European trophy. The WC fatigue factor will also play a big part on City once the business end of the CL arrives, and hopefully we've turned our form around by then and are also breathing down their necks in the league.
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Bottlers! Ilkay has utterly fucking destroyed them!
 
JULES said:
In the other years under Guardiola they've been comprehensively outplayed and knocked out by us 5-1 on aggregate, and knocked out by teams like Lyon, Spurs and Monaco
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Interesting take..... I'd say only Monaco truly knocked us out.
Liverpool - (ignoring the fact City should have refused to play after the bus was trashed) lost 3-0 in a pre VAR game that would have had at least one goal chalked off for offside and a penalty awared to City had there been VAR. The 2nd leg again with VAR would have had City going in at half time 2-0 up and the place rocking and Pep not sent to the stands.
Spurs - with VAR - we fell the victim of 2 well dodgy decisions in the Spurs "handball goal" and the late late goal adjudged to be offside long before the ball was in the back of the net.
Lyon was a one off game in a neutral venue with no fans. Could have gone either way.
JULES said:
Next summer will be 15 years since Guardiola took over at Barcelona, and he's won only 2 CL trophies in that time - the last one as far back as 2011. It took Bob Paisley 4 seasons to match that achievement
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Not taking anything away from Paisley's achievements but back then it was unseeded and it was 4 rounds to the final.
One year they lost to Nottingham Forest in the 1st round!
JULES said:
The WC fatigue factor will also play a big part on City once the business end of the CL arrives, and hopefully we've turned our form around by then and are also breathing down their necks in the league.
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Luckily for City Haaland won't have World Cup fatigue and neither will Walker by the looks of it.
And if City players will have World Cup fatigue.... does he think Liverpool players won't? (Apart from Terance Trent D' Arby who won't be playing)
 
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