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eyalluvitt said:
He is human, he got it wrong, same again today, but he is what he is, a brilliant manager who plays brilliant football and has delivered us so many trophies. His 90% good outweighs the 10% bad
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He will not want to leave with an asterix against his name. The CL and his record against Mr Ed are annoying for him.
 
madloaf said:
I leave out Gundo. I love gundo, but i leave him out. We have to have 2 wide men. Its about the best system, the best team. Foden right, Grealish left. Bern, Kev, Rod.
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That setup works but it doesn’t really change the truth which is that Grealish is still seriously underperforming. He has shown signs of improvement but he is still nowhere close to where he needs to be. To be honest I’d rather play Cole Palmer.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
I'm not even sure what the CL has to do with today. Unless some of you guys are saying pep is the wrong manager for us...... which is bonkers tbh.
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The only worry about the CL and today is if we meet them in the CL, because they will do us again

Not including the final I’ll add, but if the tie involves us going to Anfield we’re fucked
 
Several things.

1. Anybody who thinks Liverpool are a mid-table team did not watch this match. They were good. They were bloody good. They have been the second-best team in the EPL over the past few years. By comparison with what they've been serving up, they raised their game hugely for us — that's testimony to us, and the hurt we've inflicted on them over the last five years. Several times, chances that Erling has been putting away, calm as you like, there was a dipper defender there to make a last ditch tackle, a last ditch header. A case in point – I think it was Cancelo who put a vicious cross over from the right, not far from the end; it was stolen off the head of the Viking by, I think, Van Dijk, who put it out for a corner. Otherwise, it's a certain goal. Erling himself could have done better with that superbly accurate ball from Kev that he put straight at Allison. Obviously. But he did get it on target. What does my head in is when City players send a chance like that sailing over the bar, or wide of the post. Allison didn't spill it, because he's a damn good keeper. The second best in the league. Which, incidentally, brings me neatly to another point, dear to my heart. Can we stop with the bollocks about Ed not being able to make saves? He kept us in it. Liverpool had the clearer chances. The fingertips he got on that first Salah chance sent it just wide of the post. Not the only one.

2. We don't win at Anfield in front of a crowd. Yes, it pisses me off like fuck, because I've been living with it all my life.
Ask yourselves: which would you rather have: since 2011, two F.A. Cups, six PL titles, innumerable League Cups. Or winning at Anfield? Gettit?

3. Is there one person on this thread — on this forum — who's asking themselves why Cancelo was left totally exposed on a one-on-one with Salah?
There was a fifty-fifty chance of that ending badly. It did. Otherwise, Cancelo was absolutely no worse than anyone else on the pitch. Let's cut the crap, eh?

4. Phil did very little of any note. Love the guy, but they had his number.

5. We'll pick ourselves up, because that's what we do. Over and over. As we did after Arsenal in spring 2012, when we were dead and buried. This hurts like shit, because I really thought we were going to do them today.

6. Our goal was rightly ruled out.

Edit: our goal was ruled out for entirely the wrong thing. The shirt pull on Fabinho was the sort of thing that had been going on all game, and that Taylor had been letting go for both sides. Yet again, VAR intervenes where it shouldn't. By contrast, and I'm carefully putting my blue specs on their glasses case here — I presumed that the goal had been ruled out because Erling had taken the ball out of Allison's hands. He had both hands on the ball. And that wouldn't have shocked me.

7. Hate the dippers!! I fucking hate them. I hate their club. I hate their fans. I shall live long enough to see us beat them at Anfield.
 
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hilts said:
No one team scored a goal it finished 1 nil like. Its a set back nothing more.
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Wouldn't it be nice to go to Anfield and have them play to the same rules as everyone else though? Sick of having to score 3 to be awarded one.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I suspect Dias and Ake were up for the dreadful free kick Kev played in. How Cancello hasn’t fouled him if he’s turned though is anyones guess. Out wide he fouls everyone!
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They were but one should have stayed back to cover. Totally naive and unnecessary. We were well on top at this stage and if the goal was going to come it was not from a corner.
 
SebastianBlue said:
I am putting this loss (our first of the season no less) firmly at the feet of Pep.

Say what you want about Joao’s mistake—and there is quite a lot to be said—but it should have never been 0-0 by that point in the first place.

The system was wrong, the tactics were wrong, and the sub (1 of 5) were wrong. Our lads generally didn’t play that well, to be sure, but I think a large part of that was down to the formation and tactics: Kev was wasted on the RW, Ilkay was unnecessary, if not actually a hinderance with his instructions, Phil seemingly being told to retain possession at all costs rather than test Milner.

Pep is a genius, and I wouldn’t swap him for any other manager in the world, but he got this one wrong.
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Agreed on all counts, a 'latter stages Champions Leaguesque' tactical performance from Pep. Forget the impact on the title race as I still think we'll win the league. The worry is that he still hasn't learnt from years of poor tactical decision making in big games and is likely going to do the same again this year if we get to the final stages
 
What Cancelo should have done is wiped Salah out before the ball bounced. Instead he tried to be a clever c*nt, made the mistake, and Salah scored.
 
eyalluvitt said:
He is human, he got it wrong, same again today, but he is what he is, a brilliant manager who plays brilliant football and has delivered us so many trophies. His 90% good outweighs the 10% bad
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I think you do him a disservice. He’s more like 95% great with the occasional brain fart.
 
franksinatra said:
No arguments there but we all know he isnt the best defensively, does not play centre half so why was he left in that position.

Salah had done the exact same thing to Dias, our actual centre half, earlier in the game so he was acutely aware of the danger but still went forward and left him one on one. Utter madness.
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I agree he isn't the best defensively. None of the defence were great today.
 
So much about football is the mental ability to feel superior to your opponent. The players, fans, manager don’t believe we can win at anfield. Fuck knows how we change it.

Nearly every season we get done. Predictable and depressing. Anyway, once tomorrow hits we get it out of our system and go into the next match. Shame but we have been spoilt and a little bit of disappointment does nobody any harm. Up the blues.
 
Jack Hackett said:
Fortunately, no one in the media rates our chances. Gary Neville is always rubbishing us and that suits me.
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You have a record of failing to deliver when it counts so its not unfair tbh. You may have turned a corner with the manager and the city signings:-) but its only October. If we don't do it I Hope you do.
 
come-on-barney said:
Pep gets 99% credit in here and rightly so. But, his decisions at times are baffling.
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Today he played the strongest team on paper.

Some could argue grealish for Gundogan but then most have been slating grealish.

In no way did pep go against the grain today.

Regarding subs, when a game is tight it’s difficult to change too much without risking affecting the rythym.

From what I saw I would have liked Foden to take on Milner more and some of the players decision making not quite there. That’s the players not pep.
 
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