The end of the Conservative Party?

law74

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With the rumours of bullying and manhandling of Tory MP's in the House of Commons this evening, if proven (& far too much happening and being reported for nothing to have happened), added to the current polls, and fractional warfare within the tories, is this the end of not just this government, but the entire "conservative" party?
 
I fucking wish!
Some of the recent polls are saying Labour landslide in a GE, but have also the SNP as the second largest party, thus the official party of opposition, and that was about a week ago, and I can't think they will have improved in the polls since then.
IF they can hold themselves together for another couple of months, they might be able to improve to get 100+ seats, but certainly seem to be in full scale self destruct mode currently (&long may it continue)
 
Won't happen, one faction would never win enough seats without the other, they will fight and turn on each other as they know their time is up in power this time, then regroup, same as every time
 
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Won't happen, one faction would never win enough seats without the other, they will fight and turn on each other as they know their time is up in power this time, then regroup, same as every time
exactly. Some bastard will appear who will reunite the cunts as a common enemy.
 
With the rumours of bullying and manhandling of Tory MP's in the House of Commons this evening, if proven (& far too much happening and being reported for nothing to have happened), added to the current polls, and fractional warfare within the tories, is this the end of not just this government, but the entire "conservative" party?
No. It will lose the next GE but then collapse back into its coffin before reappearing in 5-10 years with a fresh thirst. Electoral reform is the stake/silver bullet if you want to keep your blood.
 
No. It will lose the next GE but then collapse back into its coffin before reappearing in 5-10 years with a fresh thirst. Electoral reform is the stake/silver bullet if you want to keep your blood.
Depending on the next week, I can see them having no option but to accept a General Election and unless Labour shoot themselves in both feet, it will be an electoral massacre from which they might never (hopefully) recover.
Then we could see a significant rise in the Green Party as environmental issues come more to the fore, especially with younger members of the electorate
 
It feels like we are in a one party state. Few people care about the country it’s all about the poor old Tory Party…. Who engineered this mess?
 
Depending on the next week, I can see them having no option but to accept a General Election and unless Labour shoot themselves in both feet, it will be an electoral massacre from which they might never (hopefully) recover.
Then we could see a significant rise in the Green Party as environmental issues come more to the fore, especially with younger members of the electorate
Even if they go with Truss and the foreknowledge of electoral defeat, there will still be many in England, especially in the shires, who will continue to vote Conservative. They will do so because many still think that Johnson will be reincarnated and that his second coming will yet lead them to the sunlit uplands.

Electoral reform would splinter the Conservatives into pieces, but Labour fears the exact same would happen to them, so they’ll win but preserve the status quo and all that entails.
 
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You could have made the same argument about the Labour Party before the last election.

Incompetent and unpleasant leadership imposed upon the MPs by the more radical elements of the membership, accusations of bullying against the more centrist MPs, repeatedly appointing cretins to key (shadow) ministerial positions and a general sense of decline.

A long list of parallels to what the Tories are experiencing at the moment, and I’m not sure are many obvious reasons as to why the Conservative Party can’t recover over time following a hefty election defeat, as per Labour’s trajectory over the past couple of years.
 
No it won't be.
I don't believe the alternatives will be that much better. I think all the parties we have are crap hence why I don't vote.
 

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