The Conservative Party

[Bill]

Death sentences cost 10x more than life imprisonment.

i'd do it for free .

 

[blueparrot]

i'd do it for free .

Yes, you obviously don’t understand why it costs. Not to mention why it’s wrong, not to mention why it doesn’t work.

 

[blueish swede]

maybe but it would save a fortune feeding them for 30 years .

Not sure that's true, if you look at the legal costs they rack up in the US fighting death sentences, it's astronomocal.
That's the thing about any legal system, the lawyers always win.

 

[domalino]

Not sure that's true, if you look at the legal costs they rack up in the US fighting death sentences, it's astronomocal.
That's the thing about any legal system, the lawyers always win.

Lawyers exhausting appeals for people sentenced to death isn't "the lawyers winning" it's part of a fair justice system.

Also most people on death row can't afford a private lawyer, so they rely on public defenders or charities, who barely make enough money to keep the lights on.

 

[Bill]

Fuck me ....you are one nasty geezer.Try getting some balanced perspective on these issues.

what can be more balanced than an eye for an eye ?

 

[bluefish]

what can be more balanced than an eye for an eye ?

Stoneage.

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[Bodicoteblue]

An eye for an eye until everyone’s blind.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Death penalty has never nor never will be a deterrent. I doubt many murderers go out thinking about the consequences.

You say that, but if I was undecided on a Saturday night between watching strictly or listening to the voices in my head telling me to pop out and bludgeon prozies to death with a claw hammer, the threat of the death penalty would tip the balance in favour of a night in - particularly with the weather turning at present.

 

[metalblue]

Just a gentle reminder that the Conservatives haven't enacted legislation that benefited everybody since the Clean Air Act of 1956.

That wouldn’t have benefitted everyone … surely only those in cities? I can’t think of a single policy post ww2 other than the NHS that can be said to benefit everyone. Free state education would probably be the only other thing I can think of but that was what 1930ish??

 

[metalblue]

Good grief. You're serious!

Great contribution, as always.

 

[metalblue]

Glad you admit he's unfit for office.

Absolutely he’s unfit for office.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Death penalty has never nor never will be a deterrent. I doubt many murderers go out thinking about the consequences.

With the rate of recidivism, why do we have any prisons? The ones that they “help“ would be helped much better in other ways. If it’s simple revenge, then we have lost our way, but if it’s “punishment fits the crime,” then we have simply grown soft.

I’m PRO on the death penalty. The problem is that there are too many racists in the system that have some level of control over it, so it’s not meted out in a “blind justice” manner!

Quandary.

Now, what’s this about Boris coming back???

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

With the rate of recidivism, why do we have any prisons? The ones that they “help“ would be helped much better in other ways. If it’s simple revenge, then we have lost our way, but if it’s “punishment fits the crime,” then we have simply grown soft.

I’m PRO on the death penalty. The problem is that there are too many racists in the system that have some level of control over it, so it’s not meted out in a “blind justice” manner!

Quandary.

Now, what’s this about Boris coming back???

It’s a bit early to campaign for the reintroduction of the death penalty in the U.K.

Give it another 25 years of crap education and we may become Neanderthal enough to return to the dark ages.

 

[Vic]

what can be more balanced than an eye for an eye ?

The whole world ends up blind.

 

[mat]

How I long for a good old fashioned Tory government who were bastards but honourable bastards. It was a gentler time seeing David Cameron appear in an episode of Peppa Pig.

 

[Jack Hackett]

Death penalty has never nor never will be a deterrent. I doubt many murderers go out thinking about the consequences.

Moot point…but I do think it’s a deterrent but maybe not always an effective one

 

[Jack Hackett]

How can any legislation possibly benefit everybody? Surely, the purpose of legislation is to restrict the activities of some, to benefit another class of people.

You completely misapprehend the purpose of laws if you feel they should ever benefit everybody.

For example, the law against rape, section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (Labour legislation) does not benefit rapists.

Do you want rapists to benefit from our laws?

Do you think Labour legislation should have taken the interests of rapists into account when drafting its legislation?

Were the last Labour government not sufficiently pro-rapist for you?

You are, of course, completely right. But it does expose a main fault line between left and right. Labour supporters think that legislation is about benefiting ‘everyone’. Nonsense. They like all political parties will benefit their natural supporters. Now, if the new Tory administration gets rid of the triple lock…they are fucked.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Moot point…but I do think it’s a deterrent but maybe not always an effective one

What's the evidence it is a deterrent?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You are, of course, completely right. But it does expose a main fault line between left and right. Labour supporters think that legislation is about benefiting ‘everyone’. Nonsense. They like all political parties will benefit their natural supporters. Now, if the new Tory administration gets rid of the triple lock…they are fucked.

Citation?