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[Alan Harper's Tash]

Now that’s an illogical extrapolation - the punishment should fit the crime.

Ok. Who put you in charge of determining what punishment fits which crime?

 

[Jack Hackett]

0.85 per 100k at increasing.
1.12 per 100k in the U.K. and decreasing.
14.4 per 100k in the US.

There you go

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There you go

Yeah, it shows no deterrent at all.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

F..king disgraceful isn’t it. We are in the middle of a cost of living crisis and this shower of absolute sh1te are arguing about who will be the next boss. This has been going on now for 3 months and the country is on it’s knees and this lot are squabbling.

 

[Jack Hackett]

Ok. Who put you in charge of determining what punishment fits which crime?

Strawman

 

[Jack Hackett]

Yeah, it shows no deterrent at all.

The numbers are quite clear…they just don’t fit with your narrative

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Strawman

Lol. It isn’t. You’ve decided in your own mind what crime deserves what punishment, without any expertise.

 

[inchy14]

maybe but it would save a fortune feeding them for 30 years .

No it would cost a fortune in appeals and the likes of @gordondaviesmoustache would make a ‘killing’ off it.

Love you Gordon.

 

[Jack Hackett]

Lol. It isn’t. You’ve decided in your own mind what crime deserves what punishment, without any expertise.

An assertion unbacked by evidence

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Illogical

A deterrent doesn’t deter everyone but may deter some

If it doesn’t act as a deterrent, then it becomes an aspect of a moral and conscious decision making process about whether to murder or not.
Simply as a deterrent then, it has failed

 

[Ric]

Leave it out fellas, or at least take it to PMs so we can get the thread back on topic. Thanks.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The numbers are quite clear…they just don’t fit with your narrative

Ok, do you think the U.K. should become an absolute monarchy and have the same laws as Saudi Arabia for 0,25 people per 100k?

A figure that is closing year on year?

You are talking nonsense.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

An assertion unbacked by evidence

Exactly.

 

[Jack Hackett]

If it doesn’t act as a deterrent, then it becomes an aspect of a moral and conscious decision making process about whether to murder or not.
Simply as a deterrent then, it has failed

I think you should read my comment again…your response is unfortunately a strawman arguing against something I didn’t say

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

This Jack Hackett bloke seems a bit of a ****. Maybe Ted is keeping him away from his ale.

’Feck, Feck …’.

 

[Jack Hackett]

Ok, do you think the U.K. should become an absolute monarchy and have the same laws as Saudi Arabia for 0,25 people per 100k?

A figure that is closing year on year?

You are talking nonsense.

Jesus…I did not say or imply that. Another strawman. Please, get better

 

[meltonblue]

Most states don’t have capital punishment…maybe they should

Why? Murder rates are higher in those that do have it, that’s why I said judging by the US it isn’t a deterrent.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Jesus…I did not say or imply that. Another strawman. Please, get better

On ignore, bye.

 

[Jack Hackett]

This Jack Hackett bloke seems a bit of a ****. Maybe Ted is keeping him away from his ale.

’Feck, Feck …’.

In a healthy democracy, people are quite happy to entertain differences of views. Do you want everyone to think like you?

 

[meltonblue]

Sunaks going to get it, wouldn’t be surprised if Mordaunt pulls out and Johnson doesn’t even bother declaring.