Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Out of curiosity- what he really does show great leadership and performs well as a PM - bringing stability and helping the economy ?

Do we still get rid simply because he’s under the banner of conservatives?
He won’t be able to shake off his history as being a key member and cheerleader of Johnson’s corrupt government for 3 years, not to mention the non-dom scandal and his wife’s tax affairs. The opposition will make sure of that. Only Mordaunt would have a slight chance of distancing herself from that shit show.
 
He won’t be able to shake off his history as being a key member and cheerleader of Johnson’s corrupt government for 3 years. The opposition will make sure of that. Only Mordaunt would have a slight chance of distancing herself from that shit show.

And rightly so - they deserve to pay the price

Just curious if he magically performs perfectly as a PM, talks the talk, economy improves, makes all the big calls right etc - If this was the case then country has to come before politics - would have to really perform miracles for me to even consider Tory’s in 2 years after everything that happened
 
Out of curiosity- what he really does show great leadership and performs well as a PM - bringing stability and helping the economy ?

Do we still get rid simply because he’s under the banner of conservatives?

As much as people think it and the media enforce it, no one votes for a pm. They vote for a local representative that commits to enact a party manifesto.

When it comes to GE time, it should be about which party puts forward the policies in their manifesto that you think are the best, that and if one of them has been in power you’ll be able to better judge their ability to enact their own manifesto and whether it was as successful as they suggested it would be.

The rhetoric has to get away from personality or individual politics. Even Truss, it wasn’t just down to her that it all screwed up, plenty of conservatives (and right wing media) hugely supported the mini budget when it was first announced. Anyone backing that policy has to now be questioned and also remember that it clearly broke the manifesto the current government was elected on.
 
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And rightly so - they deserve to pay the price

Just curious if he magically performs perfectly as a PM, talks the talk, economy improves, makes all the big calls right etc - If this was the case then country has to come before politics - would have to really perform miracles for me to even consider Tory’s in 2 years after everything that happened



How many if`s have you got in that bag.
 
And rightly so - they deserve to pay the price

Just curious if he magically performs perfectly as a PM, talks the talk, economy improves, makes all the big calls right etc - If this was the case then country has to come before politics - would have to really perform miracles for me to even consider Tory’s in 2 years after everything that happened

Yes, because he is the **** that bragged about taking money from deprived inner city areas and giving it to affluent leafy suburbs.

He's a PR creation, and nothing more than a nasty cynical power hungry ****.

He just isn't as incompetent as Truss or corrupt as Boris (but he has no need to be because of his immense family wealth).
 
And rightly so - they deserve to pay the price

Just curious if he magically performs perfectly as a PM, talks the talk, economy improves, makes all the big calls right etc - If this was the case then country has to come before politics - would have to really perform miracles for me to even consider Tory’s in 2 years after everything that happened
All very hypothetical. I think the best we can hope for is that he doesn’t do anything stupid and crash the economy. There’s little doubt that millions will struggle over the next two years. However well Sunak performs, a recovery that people will actually notice is years away and would need a totally new direction policy wise that is not in the Tory’s manifesto. He’ll get the blame for Johnson’s and Truss’s mess anyway when it comes to the election.
 
Yes, because he is the **** that bragged about taking money from deprived inner city areas and giving it to affluent leafy suburbs.

He's a PR creation, and nothing more than a nasty cynical power hungry ****.

He just isn't as incompetent as Truss or corrupt as Boris (but he has no need to be because of his immense family wealth).
Anybody who needs to be shown how to put petrol in a car at his age is a wrong 'un.
 
He won’t be able to shake off his history as being a key member and cheerleader of Johnson’s corrupt government for 3 years, not to mention the non-dom scandal and his wife’s tax affairs. The opposition will make sure of that. Only Mordaunt would have a slight chance of distancing herself from that shit show.
Mordaunt being the one that is a fake Navy veteran?
 
Siri - show me a ****

Johnson on his umpteenth holiday this summer

Siri - show me someone who is a narcissist

Aman who would drag his family back off holiday in the hope he can win
 
Sunak is now surely going to win. I think he’s fucked at the next election regardless, but hope he shows a bit of moral backbone and excludes some of the extremists who populated Johnson and Truss’ cabinets and makes a fresh start. The likes of Patel, Braverman, Rees-Mogg etc should never see office again.
Absolutely. In the history of politics, every party that has fucked up the economy has paid the price at the following election. People have long memories when disaterous decisions are made that directly impact them.

It doesn't matter who the tories elect as the new PM, the damage is done, and if we have power cuts this winter, their recovery will be even further away.

Sunak may bring a bit of reality into the world if he is elected, but it will be too little too late for most people.

Their only consideration at the moment is their preservation of power. They couldn't give a stuff about how their policies have impacted so many lives in a negative way during their years of tenure, and the infighting between the factions within their party will continue unabated.

They are in chaos. The divisions between them are so acute they will never agree on anything, and the confusion between them isn't going to appeal to the many that are now struggling to make ends meet.
 

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