Rishi Sunak

Just got up and seen who the new PM is. Of course it's nothing to do with me as I don't live there but how can Brits be happy with having a PM who basically tried to cheat financially with his wife. Claiming Non-Dom status ?
Even if he was the best candidate.
 
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paulchapo said:
He's probably the best of a bad bunch.
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I am a left wing voter but I accept that its best for me and mine if he can do what needs to be done. I honestly think he has too little time and doesn't really have 100% support of his party to be effective. I am kinda torn between wanting him to fail and wanting a good outcome for the country. I honestly think that he will be hamstrung from within to make a proper difference - I will get what I want but left with a mountain to climb. No way is anything looking a good result
 
bluethrunthru said:
I am a left wing voter but I accept that its best for me and mine if he can do what needs to be done. I honestly think he has too little time and doesn't really have 100% support of his party to be effective. I am kinda torn between wanting him to fail and wanting a good outcome for the country. I honestly think that he will be hamstrung from within to make a proper difference - I will get what I want but left with a mountain to climb. No way is anything looking a good result
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Exactly. We all want more money and spending power in our pocket and security, as in job and housing. It just seems to me that as a working class person it's always one step forward and two back. That was bad enough but now even people with businesses who were doing quite well are fucked. I know the politicians can't help their upbringing and Sunak is an extreme example, but it does get a bit galling when very wealthy people keep on telling us we have to tighten our belts, make sacrifices etcetera. It feels like I've heard that line all my life, like a groundhog day of fucking misery and all I'm really hearing is, "Stay in your place pleb, the good life isn't for the likes of you."
 
El_george said:
I do hope Rishi Sunak gives Kwasi Kwatang a significant job in the next cabinet (not chancellor but something important). It was disgraceful how Liz Truss basically sacked the guy for doing what she asked and did so to try and save her own arse. Which then didn't work!
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We'll have to wait and see who is in his cabinet, but the one saving grace about Sunak, if that's the right way to look at things, is he isn't a member of the ERG.

The Tufton Street mob, and it's not just the ERG, but the Tax Payers Alliance, The Centre for Policy Studies, Global Warming Foundation, and numerous other extreme right wing groups with reasonable sounding names all gathered in the same location, have promoted their thoughts on how the country should be run for many years.

Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwartang are members of the ERG, and together with other contributors, Dominic Rabb and Priti Patel among others, published a book 10 years or so ago titled Britannia Unchained, whereby they laid out thier vision for the UK.

It wasn't very complimenatery about the average UK worker, but what they aspired to was a low tax, small state country, free from employment, consumer, and environmental protections. A companies primary objective should be to the shareholders, not society, and the market, not legislation, should determine everything.

Other ERG members of the tory party, such as Jacob Reese-Mogg and Mark Francois, aided and abetted over the years by the right wing media telling their lies about about our membership of the EU, such as banning prawn cocktail crisps and bent bananas, have been pivotal over the years in wanting us to exit the EU because we had lost our sovereignty.

Many believed it, and any critcism of their thinking was decried as project fear.

Thier ideology couldn't be achieved while we were members of the EU.

The ERG politicians are a powerful force behind the scenes in Westminster, and they had wanted stooges for their ideology in positions of power for many years. They achieved that with Truss and Kwartang becoming Prime Minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer. Two members of the ERG, surrounded by other members of the ERG, such as Penny Maudaunt, and Kwartang launched his mini budget, widely proclaimed by the right wing press at the time as a 'Tory Budget'.

Their adolescent grasp of ecomomics, built up over many decades by listening to lectures and reading papers written by right wing nut jobs, was put into practice, and the result was a tanking of the economy.

No advice was sought from any quarter, be it from the OBR or any other source, and Truss sacked the most senior advisor from the Treasury before they embarked on their financial experiment that was doomed to fail from the start. Every right thinking economist would have told them trickle down economics doesn't work, never has, and her growth, growth, growth mantra was a total fantasy.

I personally couldn't give a stuff what actions Truss took to try and save her skin. We will all be paying a heavy price for their collective idiocy, and the two of them, backed by the ERG MP's, have collectively stuffed our finances for decades.

One thing that won't change in all of this, though, is it will still be the poorest and most vulnerable that will suffer the most as austerity Mk 2 takes hold and the tories look after their own.

The next election can't come soon enough for me so we can boot out the most devisive, incompetant and ruinous government this country has ever experinced.

Just one last thing.

It won't be their fault!
 
NPBlue said:
We'll have to wait and see who is in his cabinet, but the one saving grace about Sunak, if that's the right way to look at things, is he isn't a member of the ERG.

The Tufton Street mob, and it's not just the ERG, but the Tax Payers Alliance, The Centre for Policy Studies, Global Warming Foundation, and numerous other extreme right wing groups with reasonable sounding names all gathered in the same location, have promoted their thoughts on how the country should be run for many years.

Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwartang are members of the ERG, and together with other contributors, Dominic Rabb and Priti Patel among others, published a book 10 years or so ago titled Britannia Unchained, whereby they laid out thier vision for the UK.

It wasn't very complimenatery about the average UK worker, but what they aspired to was a low tax, small state country, free from employment, consumer, and environmental protections. A companies primary objective should be to the shareholders, not society, and the market, not legislation, should determine everything.

Other ERG members of the tory party, such as Jacob Reese-Mogg and Mark Francois, aided and abetted over the years by the right wing media telling their lies about about our membership of the EU, such as banning prawn cocktail crisps and bent bananas, have been pivotal over the years in wanting us to exit the EU because we had lost our sovereignty.

Many believed it, and any critcism of their thinking was decried as project fear.

Thier ideology couldn't be achieved while we were members of the EU.

The ERG politicians are a powerful force behind the scenes in Westminster, and they had wanted stooges for their ideology in positions of power for many years. They achieved that with Truss and Kwartang becoming Prime Minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer. Two members of the ERG, surrounded by other members of the ERG, such as Penny Maudaunt, and Kwartang launched his mini budget, widely proclaimed by the right wing press at the time as a 'Tory Budget'.

Their adolescent grasp of ecomomics, built up over many decades by listening to lectures and reading papers written by right wing nut jobs, was put into practice, and the result was a tanking of the economy.

No advice was sought from any quarter, be it from the OBR or any other source, and Truss sacked the most senior advisor from the Treasury before they embarked on their financial experiment that was doomed to fail from the start. Every right thinking economist would have told them trickle down economics doesn't work, never has, and her growth, growth, growth mantra was a total fantasy.

I personally couldn't give a stuff what actions Truss took to try and save her skin. We will all be paying a heavy price for their collective idiocy, and the two of them, backed by the ERG MP's, have collectively stuffed our finances for decades.

One thing that won't change in all of this, though, is it will still be the poorest and most vulnerable that will suffer the most as austerity Mk 2 takes hold and the tories look after their own.

The next election can't come soon enough for me so we can boot out the most devisive, incompetant and ruinous government this country has ever experinced.

Just one last thing.

It won't be their fault!
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Sadly, it looks like destructive right wing policies and politics has followed every other destructive American export to the shores of Jolly Old!

One problem is that America is now so right leaning that Democrats in the US are akin to middle of the road Conservatives in the U.K., and it’s the Republican RIGHT that is getting through to the Conservatives in power now! 8-(

I guess they’ve realized there’s just too much money to be made to feign pretense any more. Look out below!
 
Bill Walker said:
Just got up and seen who the new PM is. Of course it's nothing to do with me as I don't live there but how can Brits be happy with having a PM who basically tried to cheat financially with his wife. Claiming Non-Dom status ?
Even if he was the best candidate.
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Domicile is not the same as residence. We take the domicile of our father. So if I had a child out here in Borneo, they’d still be U.K. domiciled.

Domicile deals with IHT and Intra-spousal tax exemptions. Residence deals with tax on income and capital gains. But a non-Dom doesn’t pay U.K. tax on foreign income (rightly so) but still pays it on their U.K. income.

It’s like I pay tax on my U.K. income whilst living abroad but don’t pay U.K. tax on my foreign income. She pays Indian tax on her Indian income.

For me to lose my U.K. Domicile, I’d have to prove to HMRC that I have cut all ties to the U.K. such as bank accounts, property and very few holidays back in the U.K. and I’d have to do that for 15 of the previous 20 years.

She was absolutely right, by the letter of the law, to class her domicile as that of India. She has property there, was born there, has businesses there, pays tax there and her father was born there.

Source for knowledge, this is literally what I do for a living.
 
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El_george said:
I do hope Rishi Sunak gives Kwasi Kwatang a significant job in the next cabinet (not chancellor but something important). It was disgraceful how Liz Truss basically sacked the guy for doing what she asked and did so to try and save her own arse. Which then didn't work!
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Why.

Prior to being chancelor he has caused controversy and problems in every ministerial role he has took, while getting kickbacks off oil companies and backing other PMs caught breaking the ministerial code.

He is the worst example of a parliamentarian out for himself not the electorare, well one of the worst, Johnson is obviously the worst at that
 
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SWP's back said:
Domicile is not the same as residence. We take the domicile of our father. So if I had a child out here in Borneo, they’d still be U.K. domiciled.

Domicile deals with IHT and Intra-spousal tax exemptions. Residence deals with tax on income and capital gains. But a non-Dom doesn’t pay U.K. tax on foreign income (rightly so) but still pays it on their U.K. income.

It’s like I pay tax on my U.K. income whilst living abroad but don’t pay U.K. tax on my foreign income. She pays Indian tax on her Indian income.

For me to lose my U.K. Domicile, I’d have to prove to HMRC that I have cut all ties to the U.K. such as bank accounts, property and very few holidays back in the U.K. and I’d have to do that for 15 of the previous 20 years.

She was absolutely right, by the letter of the law, to class her domicile as that of India. She has property there, was born there, has businesses there, pays tax there and her father was born there.

Source for knowledge, this is literally what I do for a living.
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Was it established that she actually pays tax in India though? Because all of the statements I read were the sort of vaguely-worded guff that people put out when their profits are actually based in some tax haven.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
It gave me the impression that he left the sinking ship while there were still life boats and it was obvious that it was going down. He didn't seem to have much problem with scandal after scandal before that date.
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Or you know, he could enact his own fiscal policy whilst not being involved in the scandals himself, however the latest one was one too many for him.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
That’s the one.
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As I say. They purposefully allow the loons through to speak.

There will many other calls with normal points that won’t go viral when posted, they ignore those.

Nobody cares if people’s point is “I think he’ll be good because he’s professional”.

They want controversy.

It doesn’t mean it represents most voters.
 
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