The Conservative Party

bluethrunthru said:
Its who you know not what you know

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Schoolboy pranks can often be cruel. Schoolboy pranks at Eton, especially so. But we heard of one this week that seemed not only victimless, but actively fun for all involved.

Classmates who attended Eton with Jacob Rees-Mogg had a longstanding prank they liked to play on him over the years they were there. Someone would start singing or whistling the National Anthem whenever he was in earshot, then watch as young Jacob would stop whatever he was doing to proudly stand for it. Never got old apparently.
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Nugget from this week's Popbitch
 
Being elevated to the Lords is surely a vocation - pay them what a Lord can claim on expenses for attending daily and in expenses and pay this **** what a nurse earns - simples

www.mirror.co.uk

Tory suggests nurses should see job as a 'vocation' instead of striking for pay

Labour blasted health minister Lord Markham - a successful businessman - who said he 'hoped' a nurse who's considering going on strike 'would see this position as the vocation that it is'
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
 
shemnel said:
If Sunak turns out to be boring enough to take the Tory's away from the limelight for a bit, and they get lucky with dropping wholesale prices of gas into 2023, will the electorate begin to side with them again? I mean, they're ratings will rebound a little bit anyway after Tragic Truss, but I am worried.
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Why worry if the country turns into a better place ?

I couldn’t care less what party is in charge - just want what’s best for the UK
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Why worry if the country turns into a better place ?

I couldn’t care less what party is in charge - jdeust want what’s best for the UK
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I think, and apologies if I've misunderstood @shemnel , that we are talking about people having short memories and being mugged off with a situation that's less bad than it was, not a net improvement.

Given their track record, I'm looking at it a bit like this...say I have a detached house and someone burns it down. They say to me 'don't worry, I'll sort things out, I'm going to rebuild it and it'll be better'. So for two years I live in a skip and eventually they turn round and say 'here you go I've rebuilt it, it looks fantastic'. But when I turn up to move back in, though it looks quite nice, it turns out it's not actually a detached house any more, it's been converted into two semis. I then find out that only one is for me because whilst I was in the skip they gave the other semi to one of their mates, who is now busy generating rental profits off it. At this point am I grateful for no longer having to live in a skip and having a nice semi detached house or do I kick the living shit out of the bastard for burning my house down and giving me back half of what I had?
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
Why worry if the country turns into a better place ?

I couldn’t care less what party is in charge - just want what’s best for the UK
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yeah i am afraid i have no confidence in the country being improved at the moment, only the fear that the incumbents will pull the wool over people's eyes.
 
threespires said:
I think, and apologies if I've misunderstood @shemnel , that we are talking about people having short memories and being mugged off with a situation that's less bad than it was, not a net improvement.

Given their track record, I'm looking at it a bit like this...say I have a detached house and someone burns it down. They say to me 'don't worry, I'll sort things out, I'm going to rebuild it and it'll be better'. So for two years I live in a skip and eventually they turn round and say 'here you go I've rebuilt it, it looks fantastic'. But when I turn up to move back in, though it looks quite nice, it turns out it's not actually a detached house any more, it's been converted into two semis. I then find out that only one is for me because whilst I was in the skip they gave the other semi to one of their mates, who is now busy generating rental profits off it. At this point am I grateful for no longer having to live in a skip and having a nice semi detached house or do I kick the living shit out of the bastard for burning my house down and giving me back half of what I had?
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This is a fucking fantastic analogy, top class:)
 
west didsblue said:
The headlines in the FT are suggesting that Shell (and presumably other oil/gas companies) are expecting to pay more tax in the near future. Interestingly the shares of Shell and BP are up by around 5% and 3% respectively, far outperforming most of the rest of the market today. Seems Truss got it wrong (again) when she was adamant that a windfall tax would impact investment in these companies. Looks like the market thinks differently.
How did we end up with these completely clueless idiots running the country?
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People are generally thick as fuck. They get the leaders they deserve.

I've been saying for years that people should have to sit a policy exam and take an intelligence test before they're allowed to vote.

The public didn't vote for Truss of course, but they did (overwhelmingly) vote for Johnson, whose incompetence led to her getting the job in the first place.

Mind you he was up against a doddery old fruit loop.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
People are generally thick as fuck. They get the leaders they deserve.

I've been saying for years that people should have to sit a policy exam and take an intelligence test before they're allowed to vote.

The public didn't vote for Truss of course, but they did (overwhelmingly) vote for Johnson, whose incompetence led to her getting the job in the first place.

Mind you he was up against a doddery old fruit loop.
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In many ways you make the case for the opposite - maybe before they can stand for elections would-be politicians should sit an exam and take an intelligence test?
 
threespires said:
I think, and apologies if I've misunderstood @shemnel , that we are talking about people having short memories and being mugged off with a situation that's less bad than it was, not a net improvement.

Given their track record, I'm looking at it a bit like this...say I have a detached house and someone burns it down. They say to me 'don't worry, I'll sort things out, I'm going to rebuild it and it'll be better'. So for two years I live in a skip and eventually they turn round and say 'here you go I've rebuilt it, it looks fantastic'. But when I turn up to move back in, though it looks quite nice, it turns out it's not actually a detached house any more, it's been converted into two semis. I then find out that only one is for me because whilst I was in the skip they gave the other semi to one of their mates, who is now busy generating rental profits off it. At this point am I grateful for no longer having to live in a skip and having a nice semi detached house or do I kick the living shit out of the bastard for burning my house down and giving me back half of what I had?
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Sounds a bit like colonisation or plantation. Some people never got over it until they took the land back.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
People are generally thick as fuck. They get the leaders they deserve.

I've been saying for years that people should have to sit a policy exam and take an intelligence test before they're allowed to vote.

The public didn't vote for Truss of course, but they did (overwhelmingly) vote for Johnson, whose incompetence led to her getting the job in the first place.

Mind you he was up against a doddery old fruit loop.
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If you do that for the electorate then you would have to do a fit and proper to run for office, test for anyone seeking a vote.

They are already promoting apathy amongst the electorate as a way of succeeding in your current FPTP system.

The more people that vote the better, not the other way around.
 
aguero93:20 said:
This is a fucking fantastic analogy, top class:)
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I just hope that (a) when the time comes enough of us choose the knee to the nutsack option and (b) in the interim they desist from dousing our skip in petrol and lobbing matches into it.
 
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