The British Monarchy

bluethrunthru said:
WTF? was Camilla scared that the colour of the little girls skin might rub off on her?

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Thats awful, simply indefensible.
I can’t see her wriggling out of that - maybe there is something in all this shit, I was prepared to give them the benefit of doubt, but, if ever an image said a thousand words.
 
SJT said:
Thats awful, simply indefensible.
I can’t see her wriggling out of that - maybe there is something in all this shit, I was prepared to give them the benefit of doubt, but, if ever an image said a thousand words.
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I presume she has never been photographed shaking the hand of non-white people then?

She did well to avoid doing it on their Caribbean tour. Oh wait she did…

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SJT said:
Who goes around writing transcripts (verbatim) of their encounters?
maybe someone who (before they went) thinks the royal family is racist...they may be. but get real - this was a stich up from someone with a pre-loaded agenda.

Is this the Orwellian world you want to live in tripping up old grannies - recording them and spilling the beans to the press? for what? for doing their job, even if she was insensative.
cancel the world.
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Yeah, who on earth would want to cancel cuddly insensitive racist old grannies. If they can't be insensitive and racist, then who can.

If in doubt use Orwellian, that sounds like you know his writing and understand its points and abstractions.

In Orwell's Shooting an Elephant. it raises the distinction between racial prejudice and racism.

Many people, even cuddly old grannies have racial prejudices. My mam who was from a similar era as the cuddly old granny of whom you speak was full of racial prejudice, yet we had Nigerian neighbours and she was never racist towards them, in fact she loved the young boys and had great respect for the parents. For all my mam's racial prejudice she never once asked where they were from, they volunteered the information to me one day in a conversation about holidays and how they were planning a trip to Nigeria to see relatives. We were invited to one of the boy's birthday parties and the ladies and girls pretty much all wore traditional Nigerian dress, again my mams racial prejudices remained hidden that day as she discussed the braiding in the hair of some young girls, who took delight in showing my mum how it was done and why it was important. My mum told them she had braided the hair of her younger sisters when they were young. I believe this happened because my mum saw that they were working class people just like her, I had a few beers in the garden with some of the older lads and we talked about football, them mostly being Chelsea fans and we had a laugh.

European culture in the 19th and part of the 20th century was infused with a sense of superiority, even among those who were left wing and anti-imperialist. There were some theoretical racists, but they were merely corroborating idiotic assumption. A cuddly old granny who has been infused by dent of working into the English class system may well hold that sense of superiority as its the norm, that is inacceptable whether you believe it was a stitch up or not. Her behaviour was crass, she obviously has racial prejudices and may even be an outright racist.

Is it totally her fault, perhaps not, because she may be just as much a victim of the class system as the person who was on the end of her questioning.
 
Rascal said:
Yeah, who on earth would want to cancel cuddly insensitive racist old grannies. If they can't be insensitive and racist, then who can.

If in doubt use Orwellian, that sounds like you know his writing and understand its points and abstractions.

In Orwell's Shooting an Elephant. it raises the distinction between racial prejudice and racism.

Many people, even cuddly old grannies have racial prejudices. My mam who was from a similar era as the cuddly old granny of whom you speak was full of racial prejudice, yet we had Nigerian neighbours and she was never racist towards them, in fact she loved the young boys and had great respect for the parents. For all my mam's racial prejudice she never once asked where they were from, they volunteered the information to me one day in a conversation about holidays and how they were planning a trip to Nigeria to see relatives. We were invited to one of the boy's birthday parties and the ladies and girls pretty much all wore traditional Nigerian dress, again my mams racial prejudices remained hidden that day as she discussed the braiding in the hair of some young girls, who took delight in showing my mum how it was done and why it was important. My mum told them she had braided the hair of her younger sisters when they were young. I believe this happened because my mum saw that they were working class people just like her, I had a few beers in the garden with some of the older lads and we talked about football, them mostly being Chelsea fans and we had a laugh.

European culture in the 19th and part of the 20th century was infused with a sense of superiority, even among those who were left wing and anti-imperialist. There were some theoretical racists, but they were merely corroborating idiotic assumption. A cuddly old granny who has been infused by dent of working into the English class system may well hold that sense of superiority as its the norm, that is inacceptable whether you believe it was a stitch up or not. Her behaviour was crass, she obviously has racial prejudices and may even be an outright racist.

Is it totally her fault, perhaps not, because she may be just as much a victim of the class system as the person who was on the end of her questioning.
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nurse.
 
Rascal said:
Yeah, who on earth would want to cancel cuddly insensitive racist old grannies. If they can't be insensitive and racist, then who can.

If in doubt use Orwellian, that sounds like you know his writing and understand its points and abstractions.

In Orwell's Shooting an Elephant. it raises the distinction between racial prejudice and racism.

Many people, even cuddly old grannies have racial prejudices. My mam who was from a similar era as the cuddly old granny of whom you speak was full of racial prejudice, yet we had Nigerian neighbours and she was never racist towards them, in fact she loved the young boys and had great respect for the parents. For all my mam's racial prejudice she never once asked where they were from, they volunteered the information to me one day in a conversation about holidays and how they were planning a trip to Nigeria to see relatives. We were invited to one of the boy's birthday parties and the ladies and girls pretty much all wore traditional Nigerian dress, again my mams racial prejudices remained hidden that day as she discussed the braiding in the hair of some young girls, who took delight in showing my mum how it was done and why it was important. My mum told them she had braided the hair of her younger sisters when they were young. I believe this happened because my mum saw that they were working class people just like her, I had a few beers in the garden with some of the older lads and we talked about football, them mostly being Chelsea fans and we had a laugh.

European culture in the 19th and part of the 20th century was infused with a sense of superiority, even among those who were left wing and anti-imperialist. There were some theoretical racists, but they were merely corroborating idiotic assumption. A cuddly old granny who has been infused by dent of working into the English class system may well hold that sense of superiority as its the norm, that is inacceptable whether you believe it was a stitch up or not. Her behaviour was crass, she obviously has racial prejudices and may even be an outright racist.

Is it totally her fault, perhaps not, because she may be just as much a victim of the class system as the person who was on the end of her questioning.
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You make it sound that only white English or British born people can be prejudiced or class conscious. I think that's wrong.
 
metalblue said:
I see Harry and Meghan are enjoy their quiet life with a Netflix 6 part documentary. I doubt the thick end of being paid £80m really entered the equation.

I couldn’t give a fuck if they are telling the truth or not. They are both turning out to be very unlikeable cunts.
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During a cost of living crisis, nobody gives a f*ck about their grievances.
 
mackenzie said:
You make it sound that only white English or British born people can be prejudiced or class conscious. I think that's wrong.
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Absolutely. My daughter, was around 4 or 5 at the time, was racially abused by a woman of colour in our then local shop some years ago. Witnessed by Mrs MB who was too gobsmacked to put the racist **** on her arse where she belonged, like any racist ****.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Sorry mate, I’m a bit unclear; do you think they are liars or not?
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mackenzie said:
You make it sound that only white English or British born people can be prejudiced or class conscious. I think that's wrong.
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That was not my intention, I framed my reply in the context of what had happened in this particular situation.

Racial prejudice exists in many parts of the world, it is not a white British issue, you will also have noticed in my post that my mam felt comfortable because she was with fellow working-class people, that in itself imitates that my neighbours were also class conscious. We had far more in common than what divides us. Race is in my opinion is used to divide the working class, that is a two-way issue. For instance, I have far more in common with fellow working-class people from any segment of our society than I do with people from Eton.
 
metalblue said:
Absolutely. My daughter, was around 4 or 5 at the time, was racially abused by a woman of colour in our then local shop some years ago. Witnessed by Mrs MB who was too gobsmacked to put the racist **** on her arse where she belonged, like any racist ****.
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You prove my point and post beautifully.

Racial prejudice exists and sometimes explodes into outright racism, just like it did with Lady Hussey.
 
metalblue said:
I see Harry and Meghan are enjoy their quiet life with a Netflix 6 part documentary. I doubt the thick end of being paid £80m really entered the equation.

I couldn’t give a fuck if they are telling the truth or not. They are both turning out to be very unlikeable cunts.
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Good on them

Years of abuse and lies from the right wing bullying media which have done their best to silence them

And now they’re going to get their own back and tell the truth

Can’t wait for the inevitable meltdown from Farage, Piers and GB News
 
SJT said:
this was a stich up from someone with a pre-loaded agenda.
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It’d be a pretty elaborate stitch-up tbf. Creating a charity seven years ago just to eventually gain an invite to Buckingham Palace, then somehow tricking a relatively insignificant Royal aide to inappropriately quiz you about your background would be some 3D-chess.

It’s one thing to defend Hussey on the grounds of her age or even her intentions in the conversation, but to suggest that she was somehow stitched up, or that the transcript is fabricated, is a bit much.
 
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oldius said:
In early June, the Guardian uncovered documents at the National Archives that reveal racial discrimination in Buckingham Palace’s hiring process. The documents also revealed how the Palace has continued to negotiate clauses that exempt the royal household from race and sex discrimination laws.

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Equality Act 2010, Schedule 9, and Part 1. Section 7(2) e of the Sex Discrimination Act 1975?
 
Corky said:
Equality Act 2010, Schedule 9, and Part 1. Section 7(2) e of the Sex Discrimination Act 1975?
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The exemption was extended to the present day when in 2010 the Equality Act replaced the 1976 Race Relations Act, the 1975 Sex Discrimination Act and the 1970 Equal Pay Act.
 
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