17 | Kevin De Bruyne - 2022/23 Performances

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Even when things are not quite happening for Kev he still puts in the hard work which is why he so good. In the last ten minutes of tonights game he was the one pressing them back by closing down - he was excellent against Liverpool and still had an impact against Leeds so I for one have no fears he will be vital if we are to win things this year. We need him to get a little bit redder in the face - then PL & CL watch out! Prob will have a little rest on Sunday.
 
Yup, as others said, just simply stop overplaying him.

He's 31, he shouldn't be played into the ground.

If Pep is playing him out of necessity, then its worrying his lack of faith in the others, and is basically counter intuitive to KdB's longevity.
 
I find it really irritating that whenever Kevin has a poor game the go to excuse is 'he is overplayed', or 'he is tired'. Its absolute fucking horseshit. Walker, Rodri, Cancelo in previous years have played every single game no problem, they don't get this same excuse because they are professional athletes and can easily play 3x per week.

He is given one of the easiest jobs in the whole team. We play 442 with him as one of the strikers because he is so bad as an actual midfielder that we cannot risk playing him there.

In the first 20 minutes today he was walking back as people glided past him and it was so infuriating to watch. In the match thread i said it reminded me of Yaya at his worst and i stick by it. I would hate if he soured his legacy by becoming a lazy primadonna at the end his career who thinks defending is below him but he has put in 6 or 7 truly atrocious perfomances this season.
 
EdersonsSmiley said:
I find it really irritating that whenever Kevin has a poor game the go to excuse is 'he is overplayed', or 'he is tired'. Its absolute fucking horseshit. Walker, Rodri, Cancelo in previous years have played every single game no problem, they don't get this same excuse because they are professional athletes and can easily play 3x per week.

He is given one of the easiest jobs in the whole team. We play 442 with him as one of the strikers because he is so bad as an actual midfielder that we cannot risk playing him there.

In the first 20 minutes today he was walking back as people glided past him and it was so infuriating to watch. In the match thread i said it reminded me of Yaya at his worst and i stick by it. I would hate if he soured his legacy by becoming a lazy primadonna at the end his career who thinks defending is below him but he has put in 6 or 7 truly atrocious perfomances this season.
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You've named 3 defensive players, who normally make far less bursting runs than attacking midfielders and forwards.

We also press from the front with KdB, the fact you think his job is the easiest in the whole team makes your entire argument a joke. Being tired increases your chance to make mistakes, and this happens to KdB every time Pep plays him in a row with no rest.
 
EdersonsSmiley said:
I find it really irritating that whenever Kevin has a poor game the go to excuse is 'he is overplayed', or 'he is tired'. Its absolute fucking horseshit. Walker, Rodri, Cancelo in previous years have played every single game no problem, they don't get this same excuse because they are professional athletes and can easily play 3x per week.

He is given one of the easiest jobs in the whole team. We play 442 with him as one of the strikers because he is so bad as an actual midfielder that we cannot risk playing him there.

In the first 20 minutes today he was walking back as people glided past him and it was so infuriating to watch. In the match thread i said it reminded me of Yaya at his worst and i stick by it. I would hate if he soured his legacy by becoming a lazy primadonna at the end his career who thinks defending is below him but he has put in 6 or 7 truly atrocious perfomances this season.
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Different plauers have different recovery and physicality. That is obvious. We know Kev struggles playing 3-4 matches straight because it happens all the time in the last 3-4 seasons

He's been the 2nd best player offesenvely by faaarrr. If we combine Bernardo, Foden, Mahrez, Gundogan and Cancelo creating abilities and assists this season, we get 1 KDB. That is the worrying part and the criticism should be pointing them more than him IMO.

If they were playing well, KDB wouldn't be playing nearly as much as he is right now
 
WallyA said:
You've named 3 defensive players, who normally make far less bursting runs than attacking midfielders and forwards.

We also press from the front with KdB, the fact you think his job is the easiest in the whole team makes your entire argument a joke. Being tired increases your chance to make mistakes, and this happens to KdB every time Pep plays him in a row with no rest.
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Kevin always has energy to press or to run forward when we have a counter attack, its the rest of the time it looks like he couldnt give a fuck. Pogbaesque dare i say.
 
city warrior said:
Different plauers have different recovery and physicality. That is obvious. We know Kev struggles playing 3-4 matches straight because it happens all the time in the last 3-4 seasons

He's been the 2nd best player offesenvely by faaarrr. If we combine Bernardo, Foden, Mahrez, Gundogan and Cancelo creating abilities and assists this season, we get 1 KDB. That is the worrying part and the criticism should be pointing them more than him IMO.

If they were playing well, KDB wouldn't be playing nearly as much as he is right now
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I dont agree, there are many times he has played week in week out over the last however many years and put in top performances. Its just a weak excuse because people seem incapable of actually calling out him being in poor form or playing poorly.

Can you imagine the reaction if in the Mahrez or Grealish (or Sterling previously) threads, people just went in and said 'oh its not his fault he put in another 2/10 performance, he is tired'. They would be ripped to shreds and rightly so, Kevin is uncriticisable for a lot of the fanbase.
 
EdersonsSmiley said:
I dont agree, there are many times he has played week in week out over the last however many years and put in top performances. Its just a weak excuse because people seem incapable of actually calling out him being in poor form or playing poorly.

Can you imagine the reaction if in the Mahrez or Grealish (or Sterling previously) threads, people just went in and said 'oh its not his fault he put in another 2/10 performance, he is tired'. They would be ripped to shreds and rightly so, Kevin is uncriticisable for a lot of the fanbase.
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What? KDB is by far the most criticized player in this fanbase (at least comapred to his quality). There's been a bucnh of people here want to bench him when he produces way more than any other of our players. He's by far the closest we've had to the best olayer in the world for 5 years now(something Aguero, Silva, Yaya or kompany never achieved) has as much titles as them, has more individual accolades... and still he is not even close to being a fan favourite as them.
 
It's awful to watch but performances like that will happen from time to time. People will do what they always do and grossly exaggerate tales of his demise when he's misfiring and they'll go quiet again as soon as he's back to where he should be.

That being said, I called him Ricky de Hatton in the match thread and I want credit for it.
 
city warrior said:
What? KDB is by far the most criticized player in this fanbase (at least comapred to his quality).
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Come on that is just untrue. Grealish and Sterling have had 500+ pages dedicated to slagging them off on this forum. Gundogan, Mahrez, Rodri, Garcia also had hugely more criticism over the last couple of years.
 
I'd have replaced him with Alvarez at 60 mins. But Pep tends to play players through poor form and it pays off later usually.
 
Blu3m00n91 said:
Needs a rest. Time to play Phil as the number 10
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I think this is the answer. To read between the lines i think Phil might have had a bit of a paddy about playing out wide when he doesnt want to resulting in his poor performances then subsequent stint on the bench. Giving him a chance in the middle for an underperforming player should be a win win.
 
EdersonsSmiley said:
Come on that is just untrue. Grealish and Sterling have had 500+ pages dedicated to slagging them off on this forum. Gundogan, Mahrez, Rodri, Garcia also had hugely more criticism over the last couple of years.
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I agree with Rodri though. KDB and Rodri are by far our most underrated when you compsre their output to the praise they receive from our fans. Gundogan, Sterling and Mahrez had moments when they were really poor for a long time. With KDB and Rodri they can have 3 exceptional matches and 1 poor one and it's terrible.

Anyway, what is important is that some of our other offensive olayers kmprove soon so KDB can be rested, whether he needs it or he is playing poorly.
 
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