How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

blueinsa said:
Don’t mistake social media with real life.

Argue like fuck and get angry all the time in here etc yet in real life, nothing, everyone just gets on with living is my experience.
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I know it from my own family, where I am the only remoaner, and it has caused tension, for sure.
 
blueinsa said:
Don’t mistake social media with real life.

Argue like fuck and get angry all the time in here etc yet in real life, nothing, everyone just gets on with living is my experience.
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I see lots of angry people on strike and on picket lines, and I see a government doing its best to drive wedges in between sections of society.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
He has the tone of someone about to announce the final solution to remainers and those who would obstruct.
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I thought the opposite - the tone is so flat and devoid of any expression it feels like he was about to tell Leavers that they can only achieve proper Brexit by drinking the Koolade like Jim Jones in Jonestown ........ success will only be achieved when they all experience the Brexit Rapture and elevate up to Brexit Land in the sky where sun lit uplands are feeding grounds for the unicorns promised where pasties are the national dish and happy British herring are caught off the coast and turned into kippers you can send to a friend unlike in Leaverdom - spoiler alert if you go to Whitby you can send kippers to someone in the post from the Whitby Kipper Co.
 
bluethrunthru said:
what a fucking bloviating idiot

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Is it fuck straightforward, you retarded twat.

How many of those agreements we have signed over the last 40 years have clauses in them that bind us to other agreements we signed decades before?

Have a look at the Vienna Convention on the Legality of Treaties we signed in 1969 for starters.

Have a look at trade deals we signed that bind us to honouring our participation in the European Court of Human Rights, and our membership in the Council of Europe.

If you want to wash it all away, Moggy, we'll be as much a pariah state as Russia, with sanctions imposed on us from all corners of the world, and not one country on the planet prepared to trust us anymore.

He really isn't much of a representative as an elected MP supposedly working for the best interests of us all.

 
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NPBlue said:
Is it fuck straightforward, you retarded twat.

How many of those agreements we have signed over the last 40 years have clauses in them that bind us to other agreements we signed decades before?

Have a look at the Vienna Convention on the Legality of Treaties we signed in 1969 for starters.

Have a look at trade deals we signed that bind us to honouring our participation in the European Court of Human Rights, and our membership in the Council of Europe.

If you want to wash it all away, Moggy, we'll be as much a pariah state as Russia, with sanctions imposed on us from all corners of the world, and not one country on the planet prepared to trust us anymore.

He really isn't much of a representative as an elected MP supposedly working for the best interests of us all.

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What he says there perfectly encapsulates the sheer idiocy of the Brexit argument. Characterising something that is complex and took many years to evolve and develop as a thing that has a simple terminatory solution is clearly hopelessly deluded to anyone with an ...err…ounce of common sense. It’s from the same playbook as the bus with the words written on it. A simple message which is impossible to deliver. Blaming its stuttering implementation on ardent Remainers is completely wide if the mark. It was always going to be fraught, challenging, complex and liable to create further problems and chaos as it progressed. That was absolutely inevitable. Chaos begets more chaos.

Whatver the rights and wrongs of Brexit, it was never going to be remotely straightforward. Untangling something so complex and long in the making simply cannot have a straightforward solution. Anyone who said otherwise was fooled, is a fool, or a liar. And was utterly reckless with our country’s future.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I thought the opposite - the tone is so flat and devoid of any expression it feels like he was about to tell Leavers that they can only achieve proper Brexit by drinking the Koolade like Jim Jones in Jonestown ........ success will only be achieved when they all experience the Brexit Rapture and elevate up to Brexit Land in the sky where sun lit uplands are feeding grounds for the unicorns promised where pasties are the national dish and happy British herring are caught off the coast and turned into kippers you can send to a friend unlike in Leaverdom - spoiler alert if you go to Whitby you can send kippers to someone in the post from the Whitby Kipper Co.
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Well, I’m convinced!
It all sounds wonderful- there surely can’t be any downsides to this utopian scenario, this heaven on earth………..can there?
 
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