Pep Guardiola - 2022/23

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Rumour I heard is that there are a number of unhappy players in the camp at present ….
The performance level is more down to some not allegedly wanting to give ‘their all’ for Pep any more.
Not quite at the Mancini situation prior to cup final…. But not far off
And if that is true I say the same as I said when different players knifed Mancini. Sell any player who has downed tools. Any player, whomsoever he or they is or are.

This club could easily have taken a major fall when we sided with the players of that time over Mancini. It is only down to Manuel’s genius that we did not.

I don’t care who they are, if they have turned on the manager, they have to go. Immediately.
The best manager in the history of the game, Ferguson (I don’t care who he managed, he was and remains the greatest manager ever) fucked players off left and right the moment they challenged him (until age caught up with him and he bowed to Rooney and look what happened shortly after that. He retired and the club hasn’t yet recovered)
 
Rumour I heard is that there are a number of unhappy players in the camp at present ….
The performance level is more down to some not allegedly wanting to give ‘their all’ for Pep any more.
Not quite at the Mancini situation prior to cup final…. But not far off

That is quite an accusation......and,given some of the performances,a very easy assumption to jump to.

Do you have a dressing room insider? If not,where did you hear this 'rumour'?
 
Rumour I heard is that there are a number of unhappy players in the camp at present ….
The performance level is more down to some not allegedly wanting to give ‘their all’ for Pep any more.
Not quite at the Mancini situation prior to cup final…. But not far off
Insanity from those players if so. After everything Pep's achieved, how can they assume they know better?

I don't have a problem with players questioning or disagreeing with the manager. I think it's a healthy dressing room where that stuff can be said out loud and talked through.

But, the manager having made his decisions, the players need to put aside their qualms and do their best to deliver his plans.

Form and fitness ebb and flow, but commitment and effort shouldn't. Any player pissing about not giving his all needs a stern talking-to and, if there's no improvement, he can go in the summer.

All over the world there'll be players lining up to work with Pep. It's a question of, if it comes to it, does he have the fire in his belly for a rebuild? I hope so, but even if he doesn't - we should weed out the snakes in preparation for his successor. If they'll do it now, they'll do it again.
 
And if that is true I say the same as I said when different players knifed Mancini. Sell any player who has downed tools. Any player, whomsoever he or they is or are.

This club could easily have taken a major fall when we sided with the players of that time over Mancini. It is only down to Manuel’s genius that we did not.

I don’t care who they are, if they have turned on the manager, they have to go. Immediately.
The best manager in the history of the game, Ferguson (I don’t care who he managed, he was and remains the greatest manager ever) fucked players off left and right the moment they challenged him (until age caught up with him and he bowed to Rooney and look what happened shortly after that. He retired and the club hasn’t yet recovered)
Yep, IF there are players who have downed tools then each of them needs to be booted out of the club asap, dont care who they are.
Thats a big if though
 
That is quite an accusation......and,given some of the performances,a very easy assumption to jump to.

Do you have a dressing room insider? If not,where did you hear this 'rumour'?
It not an accusation - I said a rumour….

Regarding source - via a professional in the game.

Obviously as City supporter I don’t wish this to be anything other than an unfounded rumour with no substance. And you are correct in that it is an easy assumption to jump to based certain individual and team performances.

So for all our sakes let’s hope it’s idle gossip
 
I don’t like Peps body language, this might be a season too far for him, hes Coming over as if he’s reading headlines and fans views. He came out with not interested in Carabou cup and league last night, his digs at his formations and team selection. I do wonder if the Haaland deal i something he really wanted, I’ve said before he’s never really had this sort of player before and maybe it’s fucking with his head how to put him in. Alvarez seems more the model of his player but Haaland is undroppable because of the hype. I honestly think if we win the CL this year he walks citing burnout.
Agree with you about the body language. He certainly doesn't look happy at the moment whether that is performances or something else who knows but it is not the same Pep.
 
Rumour I heard is that there are a number of unhappy players in the camp at present ….
The performance level is more down to some not allegedly wanting to give ‘their all’ for Pep any more.
Not quite at the Mancini situation prior to cup final…. But not far off
That's disappointing and worrying if true. Did the rumour reveal why that situation has arisen?
 
If I had to guess it would be they are sick of being shackled and forced backwards, and also sick of playing out of position
I also think i5 could be fatigue mentally, the players maybe think it needs to change, the way we play must-be mentally draining, constantly afraid to lose possession, Grealish is a completely different player to what we bought and not in a good way. We have some of the best technical footballers in the world but if you aren’t let of the leash you look shit and it must get to you.
 
I also think i5 could be fatigue mentally, the players maybe think it needs to change, the way we play must-be mentally draining, constantly afraid to lose possession, Grealish is a completely different player to what we bought and not in a good way. We have some of the best technical footballers in the world but if you aren’t let of the leash you look shit and it must get to you.
Agree also I think motivation is an issue we've won 4 out 5 which is fantastic but can't help thinking players can't be arsed putting in that extra yard or extra tackle.
 
Pep has to sell his tactics to the players. If enough of them as top professionals don’t believe in it then morale falls off a cliff . He has to take his players with him .
Could we see him walk if they don’t? That’s the worry, they need to sort this ASAP beofre it derails the season completely, lose to spurs and things will look even worse, if the push is just for the CL and the players aren’t buying into the system then Pep may say fuck it, I’m sure his contract will allow that at the end of the season.
 
Could we see him walk if they don’t? That’s the worry, they need to sort this ASAP beofre it derails the season completely, lose to spurs and things will look even worse, if the push is just for the CL and the players aren’t buying into the system then Pep may say fuck it, I’m sure his contract will allow that at the end of the season.
He's said in numerous interviews he will leave if players aren't responding to him. I think it's fair to worry he will walk
 
if people think pep will change from his style to suit any player then they don't know peps way, players we buy have to adapt to peps way not the other way round, people going on its not working weren't saying that before the world cup when our "brett angel ffs" banged in 27 goals , and we were free scoring, we've looked off it since the world cup,think the passing more than anything.

pep will tweak things to counter the counter attack ,and if he thinks we need more passes the players will be asked to do that, and if they don't follow his instructions they they wont play, i would like to see that early ball over the top now and again as well.

the football we play creates the atmosphere in the stadium, generally its flat, reason being we pass teams to death with little risk ,the only risk we generally have is the counter attack, hence peps pass pass pass, think he said 15 passes stops the counter or something similar, if we were an up and at them type of team all guns roaring our atmosphere would mirror this.

peps way is peps way, he wins trophies ,but he does it his way, you either like it or you don't, i like the trophies ,i like the quick pass and move, i don't like the constant pass back across up the wing pass back, but that is the process pep uses and 95% of the time it works.

i trust pep will sort our form issues out, we will click into gear, in a way it feels like a start to the season when we haven't had a great pre season, pep changes the team ,gets all the players up to speed then off we go, got a feeling we will click and on we go on a long winning run, and imo in might just net us a couple of big trophies
 
Rumour I heard is that there are a number of unhappy players in the camp at present ….
The performance level is more down to some not allegedly wanting to give ‘their all’ for Pep any more.
Not quite at the Mancini situation prior to cup final…. But not far off
a rumour off who exactly ?
 
seems i read the same bullshit whenever we get beat , not at it at the moment but we will be, and if we aren't then changes will be made , people seem to shit themselves when we get into a bad run of form, which does not generally happen too often ,maybe that's the problem ,fans are getting too complacent and expect us to beat teams 4-0 every week
 
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