Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I'm not sure he does guilt/remorse
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True, perhaps narcissism then. I do think a lot of his actions are linked to some of the history he had with figures high up in Russia and not realising they’d go as far as they have done.

Commendable what he’s done since but history won’t be kind to him on that front.
 
meltonblue said:
True, perhaps narcissism then. I do think a lot of his actions are linked to some of the history he had with figures high up in Russia and not realising they’d go as far as they have done.

Commendable what he’s done since but history won’t be kind to him on that front.
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He'll be alright. Nowadays, history is written by the scammers.
 
Johnson latched onto the invasion of Ukraine not due to his love of all that is Ukrainian but more due to his love of all that is Boris Johnson. He thought it would save him and people would forget the sleaze, the Covid debacle, the Brexit fuck up, the NHS £350M per week bus, the economy etc etc and it gave the entitled twat his opportunity to pretend he is Churchill once again. He is and always will be a complete and utter disgrace.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I do wonder on whose behalf and in what capacity Boris was acting when he made his latest visit to Ukraine/ zelensky. Obviously not the UK as we have a foreign sec/pm and diplomatic service for that sort of thing. I assume that the US/NATO have enough capable people that they don't need to call Boris, so that begs the question whose interests was Boris representing? His track record suggests he is generally for sale, and generally in need of funds so it may be a case of following the money - particularly as his last visit to zelensky was apparently to persuade him not to enter into negotiations that could possibly stop the war.
It may be that Boris is just really good mates with zelensky or just really loves Ukraine I suppose.
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It's just a repeat of previous deflection manoeuvres, Last time it was to deflect from the lies and the lawbreaking of Partygate. This time it's because he's been found to have promoted Richard Sharp for the BBC chairman's job after he kindly brokered an £800,000 loan guarantee for the freeloading blond sleazebag.
 
What kind of weird and twisted psychology is at work when an ordinary man in the street still admires Boris Johnson after everything that has happened? Seriously. There is literally not one thing to like about the man. Every trait he possesses is ugly. Even his own family think he’s a ****.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
What kind of weird and twisted psychology is at work when an ordinary man in the street still admires Boris Johnson after everything that has happened? Seriously. There is literally not one thing to like about the man. Even his own family think he’s a ****.
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He started the backing of the Ukraine and others followed, and if you can't acknowledge that you are just sad, you really do think that you are the fountain of all knowledge don't you
 
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frothy said:
He started the backing of the Ukraine and others followed, and if you can't acknowledge that you are just sad, you really do think that you are the fountain of all knowledge don't you
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Yeah but it's Johnson.

What role did he play in discouraging peace talks last April?

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According to a May report from Ukrainska Pravda, the Russian side was ready for a meeting between Zelenskyy and Putin, but it later came to a halt after the discovery of Russian war crimes in Ukraine, and the surprise visit on 9 April of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson who told Zelenskyy "Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with," and that "even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not." Three days after Johnson left Kyiv, Putin stated publicly that talks with Ukraine "had turned into a dead end".
 
Vic said:
Yeah but it's Johnson.

What role did he play in discouraging peace talks last April?

WikipeDIA:

According to a May report from Ukrainska Pravda, the Russian side was ready for a meeting between Zelenskyy and Putin, but it later came to a halt after the discovery of Russian war crimes in Ukraine, and the surprise visit on 9 April of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson who told Zelenskyy "Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with," and that "even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not." Three days after Johnson left Kyiv, Putin stated publicly that talks with Ukraine "had turned into a dead end".
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Johnson - I am prepared to put at risk whatever it takes in terms of your population, forces, infrastructure and land to maintain you as my deflection tactic Volodomir....."
 
frothy said:
He started the backing of the Ukraine and others followed, and if you can't acknowledge that you are just sad, you really do think that you are the fountain of all knowledge don't you
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He started the backing, are you daft? I don’t like to call people out but you need to understand the role that the UK has played well before Johnson got involved.

Leave it there, mate.
 
frothy said:
He started the backing of the Ukraine and others followed, and if you can't acknowledge that you are just sad, you really do think that you are the fountain of all knowledge don't you
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He saw a photo opportunity and a chance to dress up, also make an attempt to emulate Thatcher and increase his personal standing if Ukraine manage to eject the Russians. Yes he was the first but the parties in Downing Street won’t be forgotten by the electorate.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Also didn't deny getting the loan from a foreign business man while he was Prime Minister. Compromised?
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“100% ding dang sure” - well that clears everything up and is exactly the strength of argument I was looking for, that Etonian education has at last come shining through and therefore he must be telling the truth - I’ve been wrong all this time - he really is an honest man
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I do wonder on whose behalf and in what capacity Boris was acting when he made his latest visit to Ukraine/ zelensky. Obviously not the UK as we have a foreign sec/pm and diplomatic service for that sort of thing. I assume that the US/NATO have enough capable people that they don't need to call Boris, so that begs the question whose interests was Boris representing? His track record suggests he is generally for sale, and generally in need of funds so it may be a case of following the money - particularly as his last visit to zelensky was apparently to persuade him not to enter into negotiations that could possibly stop the war.
It may be that Boris is just really good mates with zelensky or just really loves Ukraine I suppose.
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It will be a distraction as usual. This time the scandal of his dodgy £800k line of credit and the appointment of the BBC chairman.
 
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