PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

marco said:
bang on mate,who gives a shit what other fans think, but worldwide i think we have a lot of respect from fans of other clubs,i recently was was in Dominican and a Boca fan from Argentina wanted my city top to give to his dad, Man City is the topic abroad they love what we have recently achieved, football is as corrupt in other countries as it is here, my guess we have more support taking the PL on and winning than those wanting us stuffed and stitched up
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When in the Dominican 5 years ago it cost me two City shirts that bar staff wanted because they were made about Us
 
GaudinoMotors said:
I was a voice in the wilderness when the breakaway Super league was muted. Everyone got misty eyed - jumpers for goal posts, ahh Bisto, rattles and rosettes.
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The super league had financial rules written up by the Glazers and Florentino Perez specifically to fuck us over - it was literally one of Perez's selling points to the other clubs.

www.skysports.com

European Super League only way to control state-owned clubs, says Real Madrid president Florentino Perez

Twelve big European clubs said in April they planned to form a breakaway league, but the plan imploded within days following the withdrawal of the six English clubs involved and then Atletico Madrid, AC Milan and Inter Milan
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
 
Agueroooo9320 said:
well you yourself put it out in your last comment. you are being a bit obtuse on the word "serious". no one is asking you if the whole hearing will take place in the court rather if there are "serious" disputes with the way the panel is handling things. besides disagree with how interpret section 68 of the act.

The rulebook says we can challenge the result under section X.37 which can be seen below.
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Section 68 of the act:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/23/section/68

Serious irregularity means an irregularity of one or more of the following kinds which the court considers has caused or will cause substantial injustice to the applicant—

(a)failure by the tribunal to comply with section 33 (general duty of tribunal);

(b)the tribunal exceeding its powers (otherwise than by exceeding its substantive jurisdiction: see section 67);

(c)failure by the tribunal to conduct the proceedings in accordance with the procedure agreed by the parties;

(d)failure by the tribunal to deal with all the issues that were put to it;

(e)any arbitral or other institution or person vested by the parties with powers in relation to the proceedings or the award exceeding its powers;

(f)uncertainty or ambiguity as to the effect of the award;

(g)the award being obtained by fraud or the award or the way in which it was procured being contrary to public policy;

(h)failure to comply with the requirements as to the form of the award; or

(i)any irregularity in the conduct of the proceedings or in the award which is admitted by the tribunal or by any arbitral or other institution or person vested by the parties with powers in relation to the proceedings or the award.


reading that don't you think if the it will be pretty easy to file a case under 68(a), 68(c), 68(g), 68(i) if say the arbitration panel shafts us by being unfair in the process of examining the evidence, say if they refuse to accept our exculpatory evidence, or if they corruptly make a decision through external pressure, or if they give us a excessive punishment. it clearly says in the act that it is possible to challenge those "serious" issues. so yes you are being obtuse with the word "serious"
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I am really worried we may were naive and did not collect as much dirt as we can on rivals. now would be the time unleash series of allegations, bring back the hacking scandal into spotlight etc.
 
I hope he sits there with a smug Cheshire grin smile knowing the destruction he is about to unleash .
 
domalino said:
The super league had financial rules written up by the Glazers and Florentino Perez specifically to fuck us over - it was literally one of Perez's selling points to the other clubs.

www.skysports.com

European Super League only way to control state-owned clubs, says Real Madrid president Florentino Perez

Twelve big European clubs said in April they planned to form a breakaway league, but the plan imploded within days following the withdrawal of the six English clubs involved and then Atletico Madrid, AC Milan and Inter Milan
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
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Yep, but would have been starting from scratch - not going back to the year dot. Thought they'd screw/stitch us eventually and was time to try something new.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Agreed. Not sure if there was a requirement at that stage to report all earnings of a manager? In which case it may breach a rule but it's just a minor administrative breach.
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The other point is that in that early period of FFP we did breach the rules and were fined so even if we did over-pay Mancini (or Pellegrini) we have already been punished for it. This must be the biggest witchhunt in corporate history.
 
Damanino said:
I am really worried we may were naive and did not collect as much dirt as we can on rivals. now would be the time unleash series of allegations, bring back the hacking scandal into spotlight etc.
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Why do people really think this smoking gun exists and we are going to take out our competitors. I really don’t believe it exists. We are in the position we are in now only because our emails got hacked.
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
If that’s true then the outcome is fucking rigged. Ah well. There’s been a bullet with our name on it since the day of the takeover.

Plenty more ammunition and tap-ins to come for Nick Harris and his cronies eh?
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Don’t take everything projectdriver says as gospel. He knows a lot more about this than most on here including me, but plenty of other experts/lawyers have a different view. I spoke to my lawyer mate last night about it. He said in any independent process, if it is thought by one side to be unfair, then absolutely it can go to the high court. He also said that the FA would have to have indisputable hard evidence of serious wrong doing to punish us in any way whatsoever and felt if there was evidence of fraud it would have come out right away - not 4 years down the line of investigation. Speaking to him - and the info from Tolmie on here about our clubs confidence/defiance - certainly put my mind at rest
 
Damanino said:
I am really worried we may were naive and did not collect as much dirt as we can on rivals. now would be the time unleash series of allegations, bring back the hacking scandal into spotlight etc.
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It's the only way to stop them, let's have some ex scum players that hate them and want to dish some dirt on them,
Fight fire with fire, give a couple of jobs to Big scum people at city and butter them up,

Also, let's have a look at their books from 1993 to 2022 ? I could bet they would never let you near them,
 
If it’s 4 years, Pep will be gone, so don’t expect Pep to walk out of his extended contract.
 
argyle said:
Mate, please stop. They're not going to be doing any video interviews to make you feel better about it.

They've released their statement and that will be that for the time being.

This could take 4 years.
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It is not to make me feel better about anything? They felt the need to do one about the champions league and this is worse?
 
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