PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Iassel said:
Whilst £750k per year is of course immaterial in the grand scheme of things, I would imagine it’s above the audit threshold and thus could be used by the PL as ‘proof’ of fraudulent financials for the years in question.
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What would the fraud be?

Edit: And as far as I can make out, nowhere do the charges or the breaches refer to fraud. They refer to breaching a requirement to present annual accounts that comply with all applicable legal and regulatory requirements. PL rules are a regulatory requirement, so if the PL has an unresolved accounting issue with anything, that is a breach. Not sure about this whole fraud / misleading auditors things at all.
 
Coatigan said:
I don't buy that one bit. I don't know why people keep talling themselves this. Oh poor PL, they don't really want to charge us, they just want to look like they do so they can take the preasure of themselves but they are happy to fail doing it because they are really on our side.

Are they fuck. They didn't spend 4 years listing every allegation rhey could come up with, just to loom like they tried. They have put together 100+ charges either because they think there really is something there and they have a case, or because they think they have enough to stick on whatever capacity. This is not a fucking beauty parade of legalspeak, it is a serious set of accusations, with little good to come out of it for everyone no matter how it ends.
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I agree. Why would the lawyers (and Barristers) working for the PL support 115 charges if they thought they couldn't win? Their reputation will be trashed if we lose. If the PL have only got the same quality of evidence as UEFA did then they will be totally humiliated. Very well-paid lawyers are usually very cautious when it comes to their own reputations. I think the situation is a lot more complex than we realise.
 
twosips said:
Thank you mate. I don't think some people realise how hard it is! Ha. They're all people who are paid to talk for a living so naturally very good at sticking the knife in. Plus I know millions watch it so the pressure is on big time. Tried my best though to get across a lot of things lots of us have wanted to say for a while!
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To be fair to you mate, you are too. I'm not in the slightest saying that to have a dig - on the contrary, you've been doing this kind of thing a while and you're great at it.
 
domalino said:
If anything this investigation would encourage potential new owners.

If you’re buying into an industry with a load of rules and regulations, you would want to know those rules are enforced.
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Not if those rules prevent you from running and growing the business you are buying in the way you want to. Note I am not agreeing with the post and the claim, just that it isn't illogical.
 
Anyone know who City's cyber security provider was post takeover? If they had done a better job then no hacked emails and this shit never happens. Liverpool would also not have been able to hack our scouting database.

It would not surprise me to learn that Swales had awarded a 30 year IT contract to his nerdy nephew who had a ZX Spectrum in 1982.
 
Peaceful Terrier said:
Hudds fan in peace.

Now the dust has settled a little bit I just wanted to pop on and say that not everyone is against you. I have been non-stop fighting your corner to all and sundry since the news broke as, at least as far as I'm concerned, this is nothing but a shady attempt at a monumental stitch up, and it's pretty clear who the accusers are, even if it is being disguised under the Premier League banner...all the other bits of news that have broken since do nothing but underline that belief. At least it helped them get that little rat Greenwood out of the headlines for a bit...

Beggars belief to me that a club with a £500million deficit on the bottom line of their bank statement can throw shade at a club with zero debt whatsoever. Stinks in all honesty.

I would normally end something like this by wishing you luck, but you'll fight this and you'll win this. You'll never lose the particular tags in the eyes of certain people, but fuck 'em. I'll come back when all this is done and drink a pint of their salty tears with you all. Get into them City.
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Great post.
 
Peaceful Terrier said:
Hudds fan in peace.

Now the dust has settled a little bit I just wanted to pop on and say that not everyone is against you. I have been non-stop fighting your corner to all and sundry since the news broke as, at least as far as I'm concerned, this is nothing but a shady attempt at a monumental stitch up, and it's pretty clear who the accusers are, even if it is being disguised under the Premier League banner...all the other bits of news that have broken since do nothing but underline that belief. At least it helped them get that little rat Greenwood out of the headlines for a bit...

Beggars belief to me that a club with a £500million deficit on the bottom line of their bank statement can throw shade at a club with zero debt whatsoever. Stinks in all honesty.

I would normally end something like this by wishing you luck, but you'll fight this and you'll win this. You'll never lose the particular tags in the eyes of certain people, but fuck 'em. I'll come back when all this is done and drink a pint of their salty tears with you all. Get into them City.
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All respect brother. Thank you!
 
blueinsa said:
No more pinches….

Anything other and it’s a climb down and I agree, Khaldoon and co’s words are meaningless.
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What makes a pinch?

A fine for choosing not to cooperate beyond 2018 when realistically there was no further cause for investigation, while cleared of other charges with any real consequence?
 
John Wayne said:
Yeah, no worries at all mate. I, too, get irritated by the '115 charges' narrative but it is something that everyone outside of City has seized upon to condemn us to hell. My own view is that this really only essentially comes down to the Der Spiegel hack with a bit of image rights/Fordham and Mancini/Al Jazira thrown in for good measure. The ignorant mob see it as a four-year investigation that took as long as it did because we committed 115 wholly separate offences.
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The image rights and Mancini's contract all came out of the same hack I think.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I agree. Why would the lawyers (and Barristers) working for the PL support 115 charges if they thought they couldn't win? Their reputation will be trashed if we lose. If the PL have only got the same quality of evidence as UEFA did then they will be totally humiliated. Very well-paid lawyers are usually very cautious when it comes to their own reputations. I think the situation is a lot more complex than we realise.
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The same evidence got Uefa nowhere. Not one ounce of blowback from anywhere apart from the clubs looking to break away. You could also argue with this great legal team why are we heading to a commission? Charge us now!

No one cares about City and the premier know this. If they get defeated it will be spun how the media want it to be spun. “City did something but we can’t prove it”- erm cheats.
 
Coatigan said:
Not if those rules prevent you from running and growing the business you are buying in the way you want to. Note I am not agreeing with the post and the claim, just that it isn't illogical.
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The rules that are already in place?

If you've got a problem with the rules in fotball governing the business side you're not going to invest regardless of whether someone's been accused of breaking them or not.
 
laserblue said:
Out of the millions of emails hacked Der Spiegel highlighted seven. Five were cynically taken out of context and the other two were spliced together with malicious intent to change their meaning and significance completely. At CAS UEFA's 'evidence' consisted of photocopies of Der Spiegel's articles on the subject.

Hence CAS's mention of 'no evidence' no fewer than 11 times in their summary judgement.
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Let's hope these are the ones they try to use against us.
 
You're in the Upshot (like Popbitch, but for sport) as well.

As the Premier League threatens to strip Man City of their titles for dodgy financial dealings, there are a few old rivals hoping to claim their discarded crowns.

But while Steven Gerrard books the open top bus and Ole Gunnar Solksjaer clears space in his 1999 memorabilia basement, spare a thought for the poor bastard who exposed Man City in the first place.

Whistleblower Rui Pinto revealed City were cooking the books on his Football Leaks site, a selfless deed which earned him the handsome reward of 237 criminal charges and a life in the witness protection programme.

On the plus side, he was named joint winner of the 2019 European Whistleblower Award.

Sure, he's had to undergo 13 sittings for facial reconstruction surgery, and he's now confined to a paranoid existence under an assumed identity in a non-descript bedsit on the outskirts of Nogueira da Regedoura.

But at least he can draw comfort from the Golden Whistle he keeps in a shoebox buried at the end of the garden.

They'll never take that from him!
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