PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[jamielowndes]

Something I keep coming back to with all this was CAS saying that not only would we have conspired to disguise equity as sponsorship funding, but we would have had to fool our own auditors and accounting firms on top of this.

I genuinely can't see what the PL think they have that UEFA didn't. Especially with a much more serious accusation

 

[Bluesince1979]

I see he's a big fan of Sean Connery

Ah mish funnyfanny. Thatsh a lovely dresh youre almosht wearing

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[richards30]

Seeing as the CAS panel voted 4-3 in our favour we could be in deep trouble. I hope I’m wrong, but I just can’t see anything but a guilty verdict.

i thought we wont it 2-1 and the one against was the UEFA delegate?

 

[cheekybids]

I always felt the club would have been better served by putting out a robust response to the media’s distorted slant on the CAS result.

I think that unless they’ve stayed quiet knowing they’ll hang themselves.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

As others have said, the PL would also need to prove that partner companies and third parties were complicit. Without access to their books as well, that seems impossible to prove? It's not a criminal trial, it's a kangaroo court.

I'm sure our auditors and partners will be watching this closely, for potential reputational damage. Which, I think will be enough for any punishment to be minimal and nowhere near the sensationalist relegation headlines we've been seeing.

Worth pointing out that Etihad made their books, independent auditor and chief exec available to CAS.

 

[PPT]

i thought we wont it 2-1 and the one against was the UEFA delegate?

I thought that also. But had a quick look on the Internet and one article said 4-3. Regardless it was one vote and CAS is pretty well respected for being independent and fair. There is no way the PL is going to be anywhere near independent and fair.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

I'm not sure they can back down now unless they see the evidence, think fuck there's nothing we can prove there and shit it. They may then issue a statement saying, in view of the evidence received the premier league will not be pursuing the case, adding if they'd received this evidence earlier it wouldn't have proceeded this far.

They know the evidence is frivolous & nothing more than a fishing expedition, but that wouldn’t stop them trying, they’re coming after us for other reasons, which will become clear in the cold light of day. This isn’t about City sailing close to the wind on financials, it’s a power struggle, we’ve all seen how PSG came out of theirs with Uefa. Agree on the statement early doors, that would be an off ramp for all concerned, but if it was to continue then this could be the equivalent of the PL eating itself, something people have long warned about, and a real get the popcorn moment for the rest of football. I generally hope we’re prepared to burn the house down with ourselves in it, if it comes to that, no doubt we’ll be giving those signals off

 

[halfcenturyup]

This cannot be right. There is no way we can appeal the decision to the high court. We can only appeal to HC in the event of unfairness or fault in the procedure.
I doubt the panel will find us guilty, though I don’t think this panel will be as neutral as CAS.

If the committee isn't as neutral as CAS, then that is a fault in the procedure in my book.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I thought that also. But had a quick look on the Internet and one article said 4-3. Regardless it was one vote and CAS is pretty well respected for being independent and fair. There is no way the PL is going to be anywhere near independent and fair.

4-3 was after extra time.

 

[JewelZee]

i thought we wont it 2-1 and the one against was the UEFA delegate?

Correct. People making up all types of narratives...

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Taking my blue-tinted spectacles off, the more I think about it, the more absurd the notion that the club has systemically and substantially cooked the books becomes.

It would involve a deception on a par with Bernie Madoff, but to involve a much greater conspiracy, in terms of numbers involved. It would also involve incompetence from auditors and banks on a scale similar to the SEC and Bear Stearns in the Madoff case. Logic says the likelihood of all that occurring to be vanishingly small. The serious charges simply make no sense, if logic is applied. There may be a couple of technical breaches, but that would be true of any club.

Conspiracies are notoriously hard to keep going over a sustained period. The bigger, the harder. People fall out, or become aggrieved, or something unforeseeable occurs to move the pieces on the board. Something always happens eventually. The notion this size of conspiracy went on for the period alleged simply doesn’t hold any water.

Something evidential would have come out by now.

Agree.
Stefan likewise in this powerful twitter thread from last year that he has re-posted this morning:

 

[give it to gordon]

Seeing as the CAS panel voted 4-3 in our favour we could be in deep trouble. I hope I’m wrong, but I just can’t see anything but a guilty verdict.

It's not an independent panel really am I am sure City have plans should that happen.
I am expecting them to find us guilty as it's as bent as a 9 bob note.

The chairman is a gooner season ticket holder his club was behind that letter !.

You cant have an organisation which is judge and jury and not right to appeal that is a kangaroo court.

This is why I think City have some really big dirt of a few clubs. It was very odd how all the managers keep quiet. Klopp normally cant help himself remember his " it's a bad day for football " when CAS cleared City.

Now the pl CEOs are crying over Peps presser lol they seem very sensitive for some reason, very nervous.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Longshot
I hope one of these/any of these journalists, are outed to be Paedos

Well some of them work for the BBC, so perhaps not such a long-shot.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Worth pointing out that Etihad made their books, independent auditor and chief exec available to CAS.

Not the books, an analysis of certain of their transactions by an expert iirc.

Auditor and CEO, yes I think.

 

[half & half derby scarf]

I thought that also. But had a quick look on the Internet and one article said 4-3. Regardless it was one vote and CAS is pretty well respected for being independent and fair. There is no way the PL is going to be anywhere near independent and fair.

I think the exact opposite mate. The PL will inevitably have to back down before it gets anywhere near a hearing.

 

[richards30]

I thought that also. But had a quick look on the Internet and one article said 4-3. Regardless it was one vote and CAS is pretty well respected for being independent and fair. There is no way the PL is going to be anywhere near independent and fair.

strange? i agree that its not going to be a fair panel but id ont agree with others when they say the high court is not an option if the premier league basically fix the panel? This accusation is far too big to NOT be able to be brought to the high court imo as its not just a footballing trial now but also a false accounting, possible tax evasion and many more financial crimes and dont forget this is also an accusation against a member of the Abu Dhabi royal family?

 

[cheekybids]

Is that like Liverpool paying us £1m but insisting they are NOT guilty of hacking our scouting database?

Was the £1m therefore a gift?

I’m confused.

Maybe that was the trap.

I’m fucking convinced they’ve played the long game like Cool Hand Luke.

 

[hammocity]

If the committee isn't as neutral as CAS, then that is a fault in the procedure in my book.

I think if the punishment is as severe as the hateful 19 are looking for we definitely will take further recourse, it would be an unprecedented move to ban us and strip out titles, there's no way our owners would effectively write off their asset.

 

[Metal Biker]

I thought that also. But had a quick look on the Internet and one article said 4-3. Regardless it was one vote and CAS is pretty well respected for being independent and fair. There is no way the PL is going to be anywhere near independent and fair.

Yeah, don't.

 

[wattle]

Was thinking, what happens when the new government regulators come in ( via the white paper)? Is there a possibility that the charges will just be revoked?