PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[LongsightM13]

To think that got past an editor ?

Or a media lawyer

 

[VOOMER]

CAS also said at 343 that “ The leaded emails comprise of admissible“ evidence.

CAS also state that UEFAs request for a full un redacted run of emails ( which was never supplied) was a reasonable request

You have and email that says
"I'm just going to the bank, then I'll see you in the lockup"

So are they going to rob the bank and then go to the lock up and lay low and split up the cash?

Or

Going to the bank to get some cash and go to "The Lock Up" a restaurant https://www.thelockupbristol.com/ ?

 

[Shads]

Slander! Or is it libel?

Printed… so libel…

unless of course it’s true…

 

[LongsightM13]

I know they’re not evidence of wrong doing, but they’re far from stupid gossip either. They are evidence of very specific discussions that took place about the routing of monies through our club, and we are under serious investigation (again) pretty much solely because of them. What burden of proof is the PL hearing likely to operate to? The same as CAS or less? [genuine question]

Just because you have a conversation about the idea of possibly doing something, that is not proof that you subsequently went on to do it
And that’s all the emails ever were. There was zero evidence any of these ideas were ever acted on.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

There's no smoking gun.
There's thepPL throwing a much shit at us so that something sticks.

We get a fine, they get to keep us down. They don't like noisy neighbour's and never will allow it.

After this it will be something else.

 

[CJH]

Just because you have a conversation about the idea of possibly doing something, that is not proof that you subsequently went on to do it
And that’s all the emails ever were. There was zero evidence any of these ideas were ever acted on.

Indeed, the reply to the email could have said 'fuck off, we cant do that, go and think of something else'

 

[Bluesince1979]

Bayern is far from “Dominating“ right now. They have a monstrous lead of 1 point.

Bayern absolutely dominate the german league. If they dont win it this year they still totally doninate
As do serial cheats juve. They wont win serie A this season but a look back see’s how theyve dominated
Same with psg and real/barca elsewhere.

the prem just want liv/utd/arse to share it here

 

[nmc]

It went ballistic some time ago. Could be the longest ever.

No. Isco hasn’t signed for us yet…..

 

[nmc]

I’m sure if someone had that sort of info it would have been sold to the press not given to city

Depends who sourced it…. If it was a Middle East intelligence service they might give it to the Abu Dhabi government.

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

That can’t be right. The rags have always been at the top of the tree….

If only we had a half decent away record we would have been much closer to the top

 

[Maly]

I didn’t say withdraw. I said if they fail to produce any evidence to support those charges then there is no case for the commission to answer. It is effectively conceding the case. I also Said I do Not think it will happen…

I’m surprised you’re being questioned in this manner as it seems clear as day you have decent experience in this arena & really do know your stuff far more than the huge majority on here

Thanks for all your input

 

[paulchapo]

I’m sure if someone had that sort of info it would have been sold to the press not given to city

To be honest with the resources and connections our owner has, it would be remiss of him not to cover his and our back by playing very close scrutiny to his and our many enemies.

 

[nmc]

If you have a top secret dossier full of kompromat, you don't wait until you've been very publicly charged with 115 offences and had your reputation destroyed in the media before using it.

Perhaps you do…. those Controlling the EPL wouldn’t be able to rearrange the deck chairs now they have fired their first shot against us. I suspect IF (and it’s a big if) we did have such info. We’d use it and leverage it internally not publicly - could you see the media lining up to print this sort of stuff - with one exception they wouldn’t touch the hacking story.

 

[nmc]

Because the point of Mutually Assured Destruction is to keep everyone alive, not ensure everyone is dead.

How are we dead in this scenario? We’d be cleared and the EPL would be destroyed.

 

[nmc]

If this is true. Isn’t it illegal to record someone without their knowledge? Thus could not be used as evidence.
Is that not a totally separate issue to what we are being charged of?

Any shit on the bastards is great. But think it would need to be obtained legally or push it out to the press.

Probably inadmissible in court but its existence would destroy those charged with governing the game in England.

 

[bluemanchester]

So reading this thread since the charges were announced I may be wrong, but here goes. To go all the way back to 2009 the Premier League had to say fraud was involved otherwise the six year time barred rule would prevail. Unfortunately for the Premier League, hopefully for City, this is a difficult charge to prove as it involves many companies, auditors etc and is a serious charge, but the Premier League had no choice but to allege fraud. So maybe, just maybe, the Premier League will be hung by their own petard. Ok fire away guys and tell me I am pxssing up the wrong tree, again.;-)

 

[pauls]

This brings my earlier point back to the forefront. Companies in the UK only need to keep files for 6 years and can start destroying documents after that time. The evidential documentation that the PL seek may well no longer exist outside of public records. They chose to wait so long to bring these charges. Even by 2018 when the investigation began documents surrounding 2012 were being routinely and appropriately destroyed. Some of these charges go back to 2009…

I think they waited for the Cas verdict in July 2020 before they began any investigation at all tbh.

 

[chesterbells]

Make of this what you will, but I've just been privy to some startling information that would blow the lid off PGMOL and the power brokers at the Premier League, if it became public. It involves a recording of a conversation between the match day referee and VAR official at a recent away match, a recording that is now in the hands of City.

It's my firm belief that City have compiled a dossier so incendiary, that the Premier League will have no choice but to totally exonerate the Club of any wrongdoing. If they don't, this is going nuclear. Either way, we hold all the cards and this explains why we're so bullish about the eventual outcome. The Premier League are on the back foot, and in my opinion, are currently lobbying the membership as to how best to quietly end the process. I have also been advised that at least one of the "Nasty 9" has had board level discussions with City, distancing themselves from the others in the cabal.

Pep's press conference tells us all we need to know. Watch it again, look at the anger and barely controllable rage in the mans eyes. His attitude wasn't based upon him being reassured about some poxy finances & bullshit charges, it was because he KNOWS exactly what is coming.

Sit back and enjoy the ride Blues.

Just catching up now!
One of the Nasty 9? Was it Burnley?

 

[citizen_maine]

So reading this thread since the charges were announced I may be wrong, but here goes. To go all the way back to 2009 the Premier League had to say fraud was involved otherwise the six year rule would prevail. Unfortunately for the Premier League, hopefully for City, this is a difficult charge to prove as it involves many companies, auditors etc and is a serious charge, but the Premier League had no choice but to allege fraud. So maybe, just maybe, the Premier League will be hung by their own petard. Ok fire away guys and tell me I am pxssing up the wrong tree, again.;-)

Hoist not hung

 

[Centurions]

I think they waited for the Cas verdict in July 2020 before they began any investigation at all tbh.

Except they didn't.