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Lowtower said:
That supertanskii is some grifter on Twitter isnt she?

Complete con artist from what I’ve seen, charges folk £40 a month for some bullshit regurgitated stuff.

She often flounces when someone calls her out on stuff, there was some Hitler stuff recently from what I’ve seen.

Can only be centrist dads that lap it up thinking they have some chance of seeing her at some point
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bluethrunthru said:
going for growth....... guess which economy the profits will benefit

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Britishvolt bought by Australian firm Recharge Industries

Recharge Industries is buying Britishvolt, the start-up that collapsed in January.
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Again .... another strategic industry allowed to be flogged off to a foreign company because of stupid Tory ideology after receiving £800 million of UK Taxpayers cash

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Britishvolt: Electric car battery plant gets millions in funding

Britishvolt says the money unlocks huge private investment for a project that will create thousands of jobs.
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I see 3 police chiefs including GMP's have punted for the police to be given charging powers again like pre 1986 on the basis that the CPS is no longer fit for purpose as it has insufficient resources. They are not slagging them off as such, saying simply that as a result of austerity they no longer have the people to do the job. Unless I'm being thick, if the problem is insufficient resources their solution only works if they are saying the police have the spare capacity to do the work which I am not aware any police force is saying that? Potentially there might be some efficiency gains for the police but there's no data to suggest it'll be material enough to fix the overall problem.

Also one of the reasons the CPS was created in the first place was because the prior model of police prosecution was considered unfit for purpose. The chief constables presumably have their own agenda and Covid clearly had an effect on the situation but we should not lose sight that the people running the three biggest English forces outside of the Met have in effect said that government policy has hollowed out the justice system to the point it no longer works.

One of the most basic jobs of a government is to keep it's citizens secure and uphold the rule of law, in this and so many other ways they have failed.
 
threespires said:
I see 3 police chiefs including GMP's have punted for the police to be given charging powers again like pre 1986 on the basis that the CPS is no longer fit for purpose as it has insufficient resources. They are not slagging them off as such, saying simply that as a result of austerity they no longer have the people to do the job. Unless I'm being thick, if the problem is insufficient resources their solution only works if they are saying the police have the spare capacity to do the work which I am not aware any police force is saying that? Potentially there might be some efficiency gains for the police but there's no data to suggest it'll be material enough to fix the overall problem.

Also one of the reasons the CPS was created in the first place was because the prior model of police prosecution was considered unfit for purpose. The chief constables presumably have their own agenda and Covid clearly had an effect on the situation but we should not lose sight that the people running the three biggest English forces outside of the Met have in effect said that government policy has hollowed out the justice system to the point it no longer works.

One of the most basic jobs of a government is to keep it's citizens secure and uphold the rule of law, in this and so many other ways they have failed.
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That does sound like some police chiefs raising that there is a problem that needs fixing. I'd imagine they've been bellyaching about it for ages and have now decided to go public. The minister fr policing is Philp, and he's utterly useless.

They've offered a solution that presumably they think they can achieve, even if it's not a good solution.
 
BobKowalski said:
Brexit is a factor in the lack of fresh produce and that it is currently rationed. Even before this round of rationing, supermarkets were struggling to keep general produce on the shelves.

Whereas before we (and by extension, RoI) was protected by a seamless supply chain, that is no longer the case and we are more vulnerable to seasonal disruptions because the supply chain is no longer seamless. This has a knock on effect on RoI as it is at the end of that supply chain (hence the work to bypass the UK land bridge). This supply chain will degrade further when full and/or new EU rules on food/produce are applied.

What surprises me is Brexiteers failure to appreciate the consequences of having to constantly deny ‘Brexit is to blame’ narratives. Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of this argument in any one case, it is reinforcing a negative message and is never countered by any positive messages, ie any tangible upside of Brexit.

What is even more baffling, is that the mantra over Brexit was about ‘control’. How by taking back ‘control’ we will do a better job. Yet this has not occurred. No business sector has benefited from this control. Management of supply chains, food security has not benefited from this control. Instead, there is drumbeat of negative stories, from polluting our waterways, having the highest energy prices in Europe, a labour shortage, the NHS, the car industry struggling, scarcity of eggs, rationing of fresh produce, and a Govt that cannot govern, telling us to eat turnips and be grateful.

We set fire to a business and economic trading model that worked and replaced it with fuck all, expect empty nationalist rhetoric.

On the bright side the schadenfreude is enjoyable.
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Brexit is a factor, albeit largely insignificant. To say otherwise would be wrong, which is why I didn’t say it. I was merely rebuffing that Brexit is the issue in this case.

You do make a fair connection to the additional costs of avoiding the land bridge - the daft thing is many of these things can be resolved with a bit of common sense but that’s another conversation all together. Hopefully better relationships are upon us and we’ve learnt you don’t get progress by threatening the other side.
 
Any deal is better than what we have now and it’s great to hear that at last, both sides have hopefully managed to find some common ground.

Whatever the ERG and DUP say later, fuck them im afraid, this deal has to work for the majority which it will and we can’t allow a few to put a stop to it.

I will go one further and say I hope it’s the start of a process of us rejoining!
 
This woman sets out a litany of everything that is wrong in her life all of which are the result of last 13 years of Tory Govt....... so if Labour gets in she wants to leave the country.... ???

 
bluethrunthru said:
This woman sets out a litany of everything that is wrong in her life all of which are the result of last 13 years of Tory Govt....... so if Labour gets in she wants to leave the country.... ???

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Yes.

It's the lefty liberal woke snowflakes who've been running the country in the shadows for the past 13 years.

Joyleon Maugham is the defacto PM with Gina Miller his tick box chosen deputy who have been suppressing free speech and the real Britain's from speaking for fear of being sent to correction centres.

WeE wUnT HoUr CuNtREe BaCk!!!!
 
TinFoilHat said:
Yes.

It's the lefty liberal woke snowflakes who've been running the country in the shadows for the past 13 years.

Joyleon Maugham is the defacto PM with Gina Miller his tick box chosen deputy who have been suppressing free speech and the real Britain's from speaking for fear of being sent to correction centres.

WeE wUnT HoUr CuNtREe BaCk!!!!
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I hope she goes - it will increase the average IQ in the country
 


Our "generous" benefits fall short of the basic bare minimum requirement by £140 a month. How does a single adult live off £85 a week it is impossible.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
That does sound like some police chiefs raising that there is a problem that needs fixing. I'd imagine they've been bellyaching about it for ages and have now decided to go public. The minister fr policing is Philp, and he's utterly useless.

They've offered a solution that presumably they think they can achieve, even if it's not a good solution.
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I would be quite sceptical until I saw some detail. There is no institutional capability or memory in the police on how to do this properly, so I would imagine the set up and training costs would be significant and carry significant risk, at which point why not fund the CPS properly? If they try to do it on the cheap, the justice system will get further clogged up as a result of collapsed cases and volume of appeals. Not to.mention the challenges in how you performance manage the right behaviours if the police have these powers. Hopefully as you say it is them going public to get a broader debate going rather than just a land grab. I think the police, the cps and the court service all recognise the issues but sadly the government is unwill or unable to respond meaningfully and yes Philp's is utterly underwhelming.
 
blueinsa said:
Any deal is better than what we have now and it’s great to hear that at last, both sides have hopefully managed to find some common ground.

Whatever the ERG and DUP say later, fuck them im afraid, this deal has to work for the majority which it will and we can’t allow a few to put a stop to it.

I will go one further and say I hope it’s the start of a process of us rejoining!
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You do realise, of course, that this is a EU deal we threw out a while back as being 'unworkable'? The EU are quite happy for people to think that this is 'our' idea and that they 'caved in' to get a deal done. Quite funny really.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
You do realise, of course, that this is a EU deal we threw out a while back as being 'unworkable'? The EU are quite happy for people to think that this is 'our' idea and that they 'caved in' to get a deal done. Quite funny really.
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Don’t think I said it was “our” deal did I?
 
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