New Financial Crisis

KS55

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Is a new world financial crash on the cards? Two US banks have recently gone into liquidation, namely Silicon Valley bank and Silvergate.
The reasons are clear:
1. The pandemic caused major slow down in economic activity.
2. Governments and Companies borrowed huge amounts to cover the workforce’s wages and other costs.
3. The Ukraine war has affected economies around the world with energy and food prices shooting up. Countries who import high volumes of these commodities are facing bankruptcy or the need for bail outs as their reserves run out.
4. The war and post pandemic restarts caused major inflation so Interest rates have risen sharply. For banks this means bond yields are going down as they hold a large proportion of their assets in government bonds.
5. The crypto market is imploding.
6. All this means that the world debt total is at an all time high which is not sustainable.

Thus the recent bank liquidations could be a turning point. Banking crises are contagious and once one bank fails the markets start to panic as interconnectiivity is high and there is a domino effect. Remember Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros.
China and S.Korea are already struggling with a major crash in property markets, the west could be next.
What can the ordinary family do? The first thing would be to spread any deposits you have around several institutions so that you do not go over the guarantee limit and in the event of a new Northern Rock you are not left with no ability to withdraw cash. Next, if you can, reduce any mortgage as much as possible as deals will be running out and new fixes will be at much higher rates.
Lastly, pray it doesn’t happen but the early signs are not good.
 
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Is a new world financial crash on the cards? Two US banks have recently gone into liquidation, namely Silicon Valley bank and Silvergate.
The reasons are clear:
1. The pandemic caused major slow down in economic activity.
2. Governments and Companies borrowed huge amounts to cover the workforce’s wages and other costs.
3. The Ukraine war has affected economies around the world with energy and food prices shooting up. Countries who import high volumes of these commodities are facing bankruptcy or the need for bail outs as their reserves run out.
4. The war and post pandemic restarts caused major inflation so Interest rates have risen sharply. For banks this means bond yields are going down as they hold a large proportion of their assets in government bonds.
5. The crypto market is imploding.
6. All this means that the world debt total is at an all time high which is not sustainable.

Thus the recent bank liquidations could be a turning point. Banking crises are contagious and once one bank fails the markets start to panic as interconnectiivity is high and there is a domino effect. Remember Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros.
China is already struggling with a major crash in property markets, the west could be next.
What can the ordinary family do? The first thing would be to spread any deposits you have around several institutions so that you do not go over the guarantee limit and in the event of a new Northern Rock you are not left with no ability to withdraw cash. Next, if you can, reduce any mortgage as much as possible as deals will be running out and new fixes will be at much higher rates.
Lastly, pray it doesn’t happen but the early signs are not good.
No one could possibly have predicted 5.
 
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Northern Rock went under because they used borrowed money to fund lending, and when borrowing dried up they had no liquidity.

SVB went under because they used savers' money to fund lending, which is sensible on thr surface, but invested money they couldn't lend in high-yielding Treasury Bonds. The problem was that as interest rates went up, the price of those bonds went down, leaving them potentially unable to repay customer deposits in full. That's not necessarily a problem under normal circumstances, with withdrawals at normal levels.

But many of their customers had deposits over and above the $250,000 guaranteed by the US Federal Reserve (or whatever their equivalent to our FSCS). Once word got out they might be in trouble, those customers with unprotected deposits rushed to get their money out, which exacerbated the liquidity issue.
 
Northern Rock went under because they used borrowed money to fund lending, and when borrowing dried up they had no liquidity.

SVB went under because they used savers' money to fund lending, which is sensible on thr surface, but invested money they couldn't lend in high-yielding Treasury Bonds. The problem was that as interest rates went up, the price of those bonds went down, leaving them potentially unable to repay customer deposits in full. That's not necessarily a problem under normal circumstances, with withdrawals at normal levels.

But many of their customers had deposits over and above the amounts guaranteed by the US Federal Reserve (think that's about $125,000). Once word got out they might be in trouble, those customers with unprotected deposits rushed to get their money out, which exacerbated the liquidity issue.
An interesting aspect of Northern Rock was that the City spotted it ages before it crashed. Their share price went steadily downhill for 12 months, losing 95% of its value and still people put money on deposit there.
 
Northern Rock went under because they used borrowed money to fund lending, and when borrowing dried up they had no liquidity.

SVB went under because they used savers' money to fund lending, which is sensible on thr surface, but invested money they couldn't lend in high-yielding Treasury Bonds. The problem was that as interest rates went up, the price of those bonds went down, leaving them potentially unable to repay customer deposits in full. That's not necessarily a problem under normal circumstances, with withdrawals at normal levels.

But many of their customers had deposits over and above the $250,000 guaranteed by the US Federal Reserve (or whatever their equivalent to our FSCS). Once word got out they might be in trouble, those customers with unprotected deposits rushed to get their money out, which exacerbated the liquidity issue.
Lehmann Brothers and Bear Stearns - fuck, where do you start? Bit of a perfect storm those ones, but the 'too big to fail' mentality, short-selling and sub- prime lending permitted by light touch (in some cases nearly non- existent) regulation, political point scoring between the two main US parties and the refusal of several countries FSAs or equivalents (including the UK, SK and Australia) to allow their institutions to get involved in what they mistakenly viewed as a solely American problem all massively contributed.
 
An interesting aspect of Northern Rock was that the City spotted it ages before it crashed. Their share price went steadily downhill for 12 months, losing 95% of its value and still people put money on deposit there.
That's not quite true. NR was praised as an innovative lender and even in August 2007, the FT and other commentators, and many analysts, were saying that it was likely to be a short term problem, with NR squeezed a bit till the markets settled down again. Bank shares were affected across the board when the sub-prime market issues surfaced, although NR's business model made them more vulnerable to volatility in the bank-to-bank lending market.

One month later, the shit hit the fan.
 
That's not quite true. NR was praised as an innovative lender and even in August 2007, the FT and other commentators, and many analysts, were saying that it was likely to be a short term problem, with NR squeezed a bit till the markets settled down again. Bank shares were affected across the board when the sub-prime market issues surfaced, although NR's business model made them more vulnerable to volatility in the bank-to-bank lending market.

One month later, the shit hit the fan.
I work in financial services like you PB and the conversations we've had with alot of the lenders we introduce clients to is that they are worried about market share as they have not lent enough money since the pandemic. UK banks have much more liquidity than they did pre the 2008 squeeze but government debt levels should be a concern for us all in the next number of years.
 

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