The BBC | Tim Davie resigns as Director General over Trump documentary edit (p 187)

Gray said:
How many of these indignant pundits were quiet happy to go to Qatar for the world cup?
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whataboutery.

Everyone is guilty of hypocrisy at some time or another.

Just see this issue on it's own terms. He tweeted something which some in the Government didn't like, they put pressure on the BBC and the BBC complied. That in itself is wrong.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
162,000 signatures so far disagree with your lazy inaccurate analysis. In fact what you write is so wrong I doubt you actually have read what Lineker posted.


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Reinstate Gary Lineker to Match of the Day

Outside the headquarters of the BBC in London is a statue of the writer George Orwell. It bears the words: “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they don’t want to hear.” In a series of tweets Gary Lineker did just that. He told the Government that its...
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162,000 people who (a) spend too much time on the internet, and (b) would back anything or anybody who criticises the government.

Proves absolutely nothing. And lazy analysis on your part as well.
 
domalino said:
The guidelines on impartiality don’t seem to be something written down and signed up to. And as we can see with this response to a complaint about Andrew Neill, BBC policy doesn’t apply to freelancers speaking on social media…


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A reply to that tweet;

 
I thought the presenters were contractually obliged to present and do what they get paid for? So if they don’t fulfil their contracts then cancel them. All of them. Immediately. Then bring in some new ‘talent’ and some new blood on acceptable salaries. The viewing figures of MOTD would not change one iota either up or down if Lineaker and his cronies didn’t present it and someone else did. People tune in to watch the game and see the goals. Not to watch Shearer to repeat his bog standard ‘analysis’ every week. The sooner the BBC and the presenters realise this the better for all concerned.
 
SWP's back said:
You’ll also be well aware of this section for high profile people

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That's.... extremely vague. Possibly why it's labelled a guideline. It doesn't state who and to what extent. It's historically generally been taken as read that newscasters have the most responsibility to avoid confusion over their roles. How that affects a sports presenter, is an open question.

One reading of those words says everything someone recognisable as a BBC employee says publicly has to go through virtual editorial. And that's obvious not reasonable. Hence the wording is vague and unresolved. There's a big problem coming if they say every agency presenter is held to this (whatever this means) on an ongoing basis, they will lose a lot of content.

Regardless, we're also zooming in on what editorial policy and impartiality there is. Impartiality coexists with freedom of expression, the expression of differing views. Otherwise, no content at all.

We're seeing examples where that editorial policy is being called into question. Attenborough's documentary would be one.

Which is why the argument then becomes, in order for the public to trust the BBC, they cannot afford the appointment of a man linked with "facilitating" loans to prime minister. It was historically enshrined that the BBC was protected from such political appointees. Editorial controversy is inevitable. You can't avoid it. But you can point to the institution being protected from interference in policy and leadership. By signalling in advance their intent to come after the BBC lefty bias, and then skirting the rules for appointing the governer, the Govt have shot the BBC in the face.

And us, and eventually, themselves.
 
Media is one of the best tools we have, but also used to control people so also one of the most dangerous tools available to modern society.

Most news whether broadcast, published or found on the internet, but mainly broadcast on our TV’s is blatantly a propaganda medium these days. I turn off one news channel only to find the others are just as bad. Real stories are pushed to the back whilst we listen to rhetoric.
 
Gray said:
I could ask you the same but you may have done, so I respect you for it if you have. Unfortunately in my humble dwelling there is insufficient room and I wouldn’t volunteer if there was. We live in a free country and are all entitled to an opinion whether people agree with it or not. I have no problem with Lineker having an opinion but am delighted that the excessive number of pundits are having time off.
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Which is fair enough. Measured responses are nice, so full power to you. I've never taken in either, because like you, I don't have the room. Suffice to say, if I did have room, and the wherewithal, I'd have no qualms about welcoming an asylum seeker into my home. Linekar has offered refuge in the past, which means his tweet wasn't just hot air and he does feel compassionately about this issue. And two is better than none, it's still an altruistic deed.

There are manifold things wrong with this country at the moment; education system is rotten (I know first hand because my gf teaches primary), the NHS isn't fit for purpose, all public services are starved of consequential investment, our ruling elite continue to enrich themselves at the expense of those facing legitimate hardship, whilst concurrently flouting laws on a regular basis, laws which would see us mortals serve prison time.

Not a single one of those things I've just mentioned are the result of desperate asylum seekers washing up on a dinghy. Not a single fucking one. That's what the ruling elite want you to believe. They love the small boats, because it's a gift-wrapped box of GE ammunition. I'm willing to bet there isn't a single person on this forum that has had there life adversely affected as a result of a migrant coming here to make a better life for themselves.
 
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