Question Time

kaz7 said:
She should never have said anything but he isnt here to defend himself or similar , she made a mistake
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But do you not accept that by bringing in quotes from a third party, which have been made, that back up that he had done it once, then viewers are lead to the conclusion that something did happen. By omitting the fact, it is one word against the other and the argument is undermined.
I really think she strengthened the case against him, not weakened it.
 
Mraitch said:
In the statement she said

His wife told Tom Bower he beat her
Johnson has never publicly commented on it
Friends said it did happen, but only once.

All are statements of fact on what had been said Or not said in Johnson’s case.

If she just stated the first two points it would be husband’s word against wife.
By adding the third point it increases the likelihood that it did happen at least once.

Nobody outside the Johnsons can state as a fact that it did or didn’t happen, or how many times, as it has never been tested legally.

I really believe Fiona’s statements have been misunderstood.
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I expect that it was written for her by Legal as the issue was bound to come up. Her intonation was a little light though so as not to waste too much time, and that didn't help her.
I agree that I don't think she intended to trivialise - as the BBC said, it was to give the audience context, which is one thing you're not going to get from Yasmin Alibhai-Brown who detests all the Johnsons.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I expect that it was written for her by Legal as the issue was bound to come up. Her intonation was a little light though so as not to waste too much time, and that didn't help her.
I agree that I don't think she intended to trivialise - as the BBC said, it was to give the audience context, which is one thing you're not going to get from Yasmin Alibhai-Brown who detests all the Johnsons.
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To be fair the Johnson’s are detestable.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I expect that it was written for her by Legal as the issue was bound to come up. Her intonation was a little light though so as not to waste too much time, and that didn't help her.
I agree that I don't think she intended to trivialise - as the BBC said, it was to give the audience context, which is one thing you're not going to get from Yasmin Alibhai-Brown who detests all the Johnsons.
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Are you trying to tell us that hating all of them isn't a balanced view?

Especially when they come from a long line of bastards.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Two points to raise there

1/ if thats the truth why not say that the
2/ if thats the truth why have refuge asked her to step down?

This is what she actually said - and the obvious reason Johnson himself hasn't said as such is that presumably lying does come to him quite as easily as it does his son

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She should be “stepping back” from presenting Question Time. She’s better suited as a spokesperson for Conservative Central Office.
 
Mraitch said:
In the statement she said

His wife told Tom Bower he beat her
Johnson has never publicly commented on it
Friends said it did happen, but only once.

All are statements of fact on what had been said Or not said in Johnson’s case.

If she just stated the first two points it would be husband’s word against wife.
By adding the third point it increases the likelihood that it did happen at least once.

Nobody outside the Johnsons can state as a fact that it did or didn’t happen, or how many times, as it has never been tested legally.

I really believe Fiona’s statements have been misunderstood.
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I think if she'd just said:

His wife told Tom Bower he beat her
Johnson has never publicly commented on it

That would have been more than enough to cover it. That way she's giving the ex wife's say and Johnson's say (or not as he has chosen not to). The third part is making it 2-1 by giving his friend's accounts not her's.
 
40 years in pensionable work -got nowhere near a £1m pension pot and I am told my pension is generous. Never quite eared £40k in a year.

Everybody this cock end refers to something that benefits a pension pot over £1m or someone who can put £40k into a pension is a year............ not a nurse and not you if you are reading this

 
Mraitch said:
I have seen it repeatedly.
My interpretation was, and remains, that Yasmin stated it was on public record.
Fiona’s clarification was that Johnson’s wife has made the claim and to Tom Bower, that Johnson had never commented on it, but friends of his had confirmed that it had happened but only once.
Fiona is stating facts, and what she states show that in all likelihood it did happen.
I think that the term it being on public record he is a wife beater was perhaps the contentious point.
Fiona’s statement supports the view he was likely a wife beater and in no way trivialises the actions. She did not suggest it only being once was in some way excusable.

I think, as frequently happens, a statement is misunderstood, then massively misrepresented.

She has voluntarily stepped down from a charity that she has supported for 25 years due to the adverse noise that it has generated. I think that is very sad.
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What’s sad is she is still employed by the BBC
 
Tories either don't prepare or don't care - its an unusual arrogance that makes you display your own inadequacies

 
then again Lucy claiming the tories are adopting labours ideas just says they are both just the same policy wise with labour being a little less right wing but pretty much tory lite in nature.


Also she is a massive hypocrite like most of the labour PLP, must agree with Stephen Fylnn on his last point
 
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