Liverpool bus damaged on journey back from Etihad Stadium today

jackl31 said:
You also sound very angry
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I'm not angry but can't understand why you can't accept that most posters on here can't stand the dippers and the constant moaning and decrying of everything...always the fucking victims is so fucking apt.
If the posters on this thread offend your delicate sensibilities then stick to reading about how nasty City fans are on Rawk
 
Centurions said:
Is that monetising or commemorating though? Just because AIG's name is on it doesn't mean any money changed hands. I think you're stretching there.
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Come off it mate, as a sponsor of Man U, of course money changed hands at some point. A specific example of milking the tragedy was asked for, and there it is, unless we’re in domalino hair splitting territory. I personally feel that the media are the biggest culprits in facilitating this rather than the club but it all becomes so inextricably linked in the club’s culture that monetisation is almost inevitable.
 
Aguerooooooo93:20 said:
Could some MITK please on the latest news re:

Have any scousers started a petition yet ?

Has anyone consulted with Everton ?

Have City issued a full apology yet?

Where there's blame (never their fault tho) there's a rawkista gobshite :-)
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As far as I can see, the only place this is being talked about is on here by City fans, which if you think about it is weird. I'm not visiting RAWK to check.

I still don't think Liverpool have commentated on it (or the chants), they advised City of the damage and that was it. I think the chants were reported by a City employee, not Liverpool themselves.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
You just have to avoid booing. Nobody has to sing. Anyway I will leave it there because I find your brand of political activism tedious. Maybe Liverpool would have done even better (they did very well from EU funding) if they didn’t have so much corruption in local Government.
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Liverpool voted to stay in the eu. Local government corruption is not the driver of regional inequalities in this country
 
jackl31 said:
His majesty's government
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Two separate institutions really, one kept in place by blood, the other by... well... who knows. They really have very little to do with each other.

To me, booing the anthem because you don't like the government is about as appropriate as thinking always the victims is about Hillsborough. Or booing the Uefa anthem if you have issues with the FA.
 
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blue by birth said:
I'm not angry but can't understand why you can't accept that most posters on here can't stand the dippers and the constant moaning and decrying of everything...always the fucking victims is so fucking apt.
If the posters on this thread offend your delicate sensibilities then stick to reading about how nasty City fans are on Rawk
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Not liking the dippers and singing about people dying aren't really the same thing though, are they.
 
Centurions said:
As far as I can see, the only place this is being talked about is on here by City fans, which if you think about it is weird. I'm not visiting RAWK to check.

I still don't think Liverpool have commentated on it (or the chants), they advised City of the damage and that was it. I think the chants were reported by a City employee, not Liverpool themselves.
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I believe that the Dippers have someone at every away match who is on his phone all game getting news of any issues regarding Hillsborough chants so they can comment on them!
 
Centurions said:
Not liking the dippers and singing about people dying aren't really the same thing though, are they.
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Always the victims isn't about people dying though is it...it's about how the never accept responsibility for fuck all..always offended and moaning about everything.
It's ok for them to sing about Shipman killing Mancs and Munich etc but God forbid we sing about feeding the scousers or anything that's not in their chosen songbook.
 
mattcity5 said:
Don't disagree that we've been neglected, but due to its lyrics, most normal people associate the National Anthem with the royal family, rather than the government.
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why I never sing it, stand for it, recognise it or care if people boo it.

the national anthem does not respresnt the majority of the country, but an elite family crammed with peados (or those that hid them), tax dodgers, probable murderers and thieves.

If there was a god I would sing smite the king not save the twat

Viva la repùblica ;-)


Plus bringing up them booing it is a defelction from the conversation over tge two somgs in question.

murderers ? not sure what fans are aiming for, I expect Heysel for most but as one loon in level 3 was screaming child killing cunts on sat so it may be a general acusation for some.

ATV - obviously this is the main contention, they say it's about hillsborough and have convinced the media and FA the same, every fan base in the country says it isn't and when sang is about heysel, racism, sock robbing, fountain pushing and bus attacking etc and them never taking responsibility it is not about their fans dying, they are the only voice calling it a hillsborough chant but the ambiguity is there.
personally I don't sing it and not sure why we do when it causes nowt but mither
 
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I thought the chants were to do with Liverpool as a club taking no responsibility for predictable concequences of a mob mentality within their supporters and making that part of their community culture and identity as a club. The "it means more" nonesense.

So in that sense it includes Hillsborough, Hysel, Paris, the City bus and anything their mob carried out without anyone really highlighting that as a crowd they knowingly did dangerous shit.

"Never their fault" I think is because you never hear that it was even a little bit their fault. I didn't hear anyone from Liverpool say "we should have been watching out for how many people were getting legitimate tickets to get into the CL final" or "we should have avoided doing anything as a club on the anniversary of Hysel" or "we have cooperated with the fan community to hold the organisers of the bus welcome to account for it being a disgrace to all concerned" or "we should have addressed crowd safety with the fans and the police a long time before the Hillsborough disaster".

Tbh, I hate the chants. But I do think that Liverpool are a horrible club with a horrible culture.

(Btw, I'm no expert on any of the disasters. Those lost in them were individually innocent and I'm sure that Liverpool club and fans were not much different to other clubs at the time.)
 
jackl31 said:
Okay let's try this question then. Why do you think Hillsborough gets more coverage than the Bradford fire?

Also to say the Munich air crash has been monetised is a pretty awful thing to suggest. Especially as one of the victims was an ex City player. I will never understand why some of our fanbase think it's okay to use the Munich air disaster as a stick to beat United fans with
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If you think that United haven't monetised The Munich air crash then there is little point in attempting any further debate with you. Goodbye. You are on ignore. Have a nice day.
 
TonyM said:
So in that sense it includes Hillsborough
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TonyM said:
"we should have addressed crowd safety with the fans and the police a long time before the Hillsborough disaster".
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Even in a comment about how you supposedly believe the chant isn't related to Hillsborough, you've managed to say it's about Hillsborough twice and manage to at least partly blame them for Hillsborough.
 
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