Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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give it to gordon said:
Was this written by a ten year old ? I'm not part of the grammar police but bloody hell lol


Manchester City, for instance, is under a cloud of grave uncertainty after it was charged with over 100 breaches of Premier League financial rules over a nine-year period."
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They must be Yanks. Yanks refer to bands and football teams in the singular, eg ‘Everton is a joke played by a cruel god’. It’s very fucking annoying when you’re on Duolingo and you get marked down because they use American English.
 
ultimateharold said:
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TCIB said:
Does anyone else find great fun in the fact we are responsible for this Liverpool team crumbling. They did everything, Klopp was revving the bollocks off their engine trying to keep up with us and last season i feel broke them. Yes we broke them again kind of this season a few days ago but last season was a killer blow to them i feel.

Their players did everything Klopp said to do, they ran their arses off for 90mins every game for years and still came up short. Their best was simply not good enough. If they were top dogs there is every chance Mane and wijnaldum would have stayed. I think they saw everything for what it was, that they would always be second best to us.

If all that effort was paying off they would still have a strong mentalty now, no doubt about it. That would drive them on this season even if they are are all old or just not as good as they were. I think the end of last season really took the wind out of their sails for good.

Madrid helped a bit but the main course of disaster for their mental resiliance was us. Considering how much i detest that club and it's fans seeing them in their final moments is so satisfying to watch. Like John Wick when he knifes that guy under his chin in the club and stares into his eyes as he slides down the wall and follows his face with his so he can see the life drain out of him.

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You just say the nicest things @TCIB -:)

Jib on dippers, jib on…
 
wolviedinho said:
You just say the nicest things @TCIB -:)

Jib on dippers, jib on…
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We have broken them into crumbs....owners,coach and rats.

They have lost out to us completely in contrast to their entitled hope and expectations.

And now, after 33 seasons of ONE yes ONE, PL title, the team is fucked, the till is empty, the fans flit the Etihad after 65 minutes, the owners want out but no one will buy them.

Fucked is the word ....fucked I tell thee
 
There is a lot of media coverage a about 'tragedy chanting ' a new term for me. I was just wondering why it has only raised it's head to this level fairly recently. I was also looking at which fans were claiming to be 'victim's of these events. Quite ironic that Liverpool fans seem to be creating this noise and are complaining about being the victims of a victim song!!!!!!
 
Col12 said:
There is a lot of media coverage a about 'tragedy chanting ' a new term for me. I was just wondering why it has only raised it's head to this level fairly recently. I was also looking at which fans were claiming to be 'victim's of these events. Quite ironic that Liverpool fans seem to be creating this noise and are complaining about being the victims of a victim song!!!!!!
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Liverpool, it's always fucking Liverpool.

The ultimate mard arses.
 
citysince88 said:
Going off thier recent performances, they have no chance against arsenal. They looked absolutely broken against us.
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Compare their record at Anfield and away along with Arse's record at the shithole, and you'll realize they actually do. In fact, I'd be very surprised if Arse comes away with 3pts. Draw is very possible
 
SebastianBlue said:
Klopp is a poisoned chalice.

He’ll get you a measure of short-term success, as he has at all of his clubs, at the expense of long-term struggle, warning signs of the latter being hidden over several seasons by the cult following he builds. He is a deal with the devil.

As opposed to Pep, who gets you sustained success *and* sets up the club for further success (though, not quite the dominance, which you can only get with him specifically) after he leaves.

That attribute of Pep—creating a foundation for a club to do well without him, both on and off the pitch, as long as it appoints a competent manager to replace him—is arguably the most overlooked.

Despite their achievements whilst managing clubs—and you begrudgingly have to acknowledge them—continuity is absolutely not something most other supposedly “top” managers provide. Ferguson and Wenger didn’t (the former seemingly sabotaging the club to protect his legacy and the latter stubbornly overstaying his effectiveness to devastating effect). Mourinho famously doesn’t. Neither do Tuchel or Conte. Even Ancelotti does not guarantee a proper foundation post-departure. And you certainly don’t get that with Klopp; it’s the exact opposite basically everywhere he has managed.

Only Pep has consistently done it, after also providing success during his tenure. Some might argue that it is a small sample (Barca, Bayern, City) and that they are all big clubs with big apparatus behind them that supports their success beyond the manager. And that he hasn’t won the CL since leaving Barca.

But I would argue that actually makes what Pep has done even more difficult. Building a foundation is even more complicated at such high profile clubs. Sustaining it even more difficult. The CL, too, is a poor barometer, as it is both largely a crapshoot and also a very corrupt competition (see UEFA treatment of City and favouritism toward Real Madrid).

And, once more, City wasn’t at the level we are now when he arrived. We were good but not at Barca and Bayern’s level. He has helped to build us in to a juggernaut, even despite our missing out on CL glory thus far. We are now truly a top, top club, attracting the best young players in the world, and that will persist even after he goes (hopefully not for some time, mind).

Pep is the holy grail.

Klopp is one of the other cups in the manager talent crypt and now Liverpool are realising the consequences.

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A lot of good managers can move in, shake things up and win stuff for a couple of years. Mourinho, Conte, Tuchel, etc etc all guys who have done this.

It takes a very special breed of manager to continually reinvent the same club, build several teams and continue to motivate players over years and years.

How many managers in the modern era have achieved that? Pep, bacon chops, maybe Wenger?

Klopp is clearly a good manager and a brilliant short term motivator but he’s not dining at that top table.
 
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