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You should have just stopped there ......
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Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager
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You should have just stopped there ......
Haha. That's very good :)You should have just stopped there ......
Agree. Playing would be a great idea.
Who knows maybe we could win the league that day if Arsenal continues to drop points.
Decent chance we win it on the 14th. We'll need to beat West Ham, Leeds, Everton, they'd need to drop 6 points across Chelsea, Newcastle & Brighton.
Apparently Chelsea are 251/1 to lose all their remaining games.
Arsenal (a)
Bournemouth (a)
Forest
City (a)
United (a)
Newcastle
Might be worth a punt... realistically you'd expect them to get at least a draw or 2, but 250/1?
City escaped fuck all regarding FFP apart from a orchestrated witchunt. Uefa moved the original goal posts to snare us when this abomination of sporting fairness and integrity was born out of jealousy and racism towards a Muslim owner.
The joke Uefa charges had no merit and got chucked out at the earliest opportunity. Now the league is trying it on aided by a baying mob in both the media and the so called premier league history clubs.
If you are not willing to read up and understand the ffp case against city then your opinion on the matter is fucking worthless.
Chelsea under Roman had tons of soft loans and tons of players out on loan. All with the aim of dodging ffp. See it’s easy to cast aspirations when not I don’t have all the facts.
So fuck off with the escape ffp shit.
Jeez, relax mate.
I've read a little, but would certainly not claim to be an expert on City's struggles with UEFA, or indeed the unresolved ones with the FA.
There's always two sides of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest the whole thing was just a case of UEFA or the FA being on a witch hunt.
I was under the impression that the charges were only avoided once City went to the CoA, and that avoidance of prosecution was due to certain items being time barred?
Anyway, I'll read up on it myself for the sake of interest.
I'd have a score on that.Apparently Chelsea are 251/1 to lose all their remaining games.
So basically you admitting you know fuck all about the CAS verdictJeez, relax mate.
I've read a little, but would certainly not claim to be an expert on City's struggles with UEFA, or indeed the unresolved ones with the FA.
There's always two sides of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest the whole thing was just a case of UEFA or the FA being on a witch hunt.
I was under the impression that the charges were only avoided once City went to the CoA, and that avoidance of prosecution was due to certain items being time barred?
Anyway, I'll read up on it myself for the sake of interest.
For the sake of clarity (and hopefully friendliness too) I'd also point out that I don't think Manchester City have likely done anything that a ton of other clubs have done also - probably every top club out there.City escaped fuck all regarding FFP apart from a orchestrated witchunt. Uefa moved the original goal posts to snare us when this abomination of sporting fairness and integrity was born out of jealousy and racism towards a Muslim owner.
The joke Uefa charges had no merit and got chucked out at the earliest opportunity. Now the league is trying it on aided by a baying mob in both the media and the so called premier league history clubs.
If you are not willing to read up and understand the ffp case against city then your opinion on the matter is fucking worthless.
Chelsea under Roman had tons of soft loans and tons of players out on loan. All with the aim of dodging ffp. See it’s easy to cast aspirations when not I don’t have all the facts.
So fuck off with the escape ffp shit.
It's business. And sometimes business has to cut a few corners here and there.
The only reason I even mentioned the UEFA/FA stuff was that some here are insistent on proclaiming City as perfect in every way, which I'm sure you realise, even with your blue tinted glasses on, can't really be the reality.
Jeez, relax mate.
I've read a little, but would certainly not claim to be an expert on City's struggles with UEFA, or indeed the unresolved ones with the FA.
There's always two sides of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest the whole thing was just a case of UEFA or the FA being on a witch hunt.
I was under the impression that the charges were only avoided once City went to the CoA, and that avoidance of prosecution was due to certain items being time barred?
Anyway, I'll read up on it myself for the sake of interest.
I think it's harsh to say the main superpower is being loaded. Of course I agree it's necessary given the inequality in the game. It's basically impossible for a non established club to consistently get further than say, where Brighton are now, without a sugar daddy.
But at the same time, United have consistently outsspent City in the last decade. If they'd been run properly, the way Liverpool were, we'd never have dominated to much. City are 11th now in the net spend over the last 5 years. Likewise Chelsea have hardly skimped, and Liverpool for all Klopp's "we can't compete" shtick are not far behind.
The main superpower has been alignment on strategy from top to bottom and consistent execution on that strategy. Gradually over time they've added better and better people (on and off the pitch) until they've ended up with a collection of extreme outlying talent like Guardiola, De Bruyne and Haaland. This isn't just spaffing cash: when top talent has wanted more money or playing time than City thought it was worth, they've consistently walked away. That's why Sterling is at Chelsea, Maguire and Fred are at United and Jesus and Zinchenko are at Arsenal.
It's lazy to just say "oh City just spend money" when your own club spaffed £100m up the wall on Lukaku. It just comes across as "oh it's not fair because we made an avoidable mistake"
But yeah you're not going to always get rational responses on here either, some people see conspiracy round every corner.
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All wrong and total bollox.Jeez, relax mate.
I've read a little, but would certainly not claim to be an expert on City's struggles with UEFA, or indeed the unresolved ones with the FA.
There's always two sides of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest the whole thing was just a case of UEFA or the FA being on a witch hunt.
I was under the impression that the charges were only avoided once City went to the CoA, and that avoidance of prosecution was due to certain items being time barred?
Anyway, I'll read up on it myself for the sake of interest.
Take your own advice and read up on it before digging anymore of a hole.
The whole time barred crap shows how little you understand the case. It’s easy to peddle the media bullshit but don’t come on a city forum casting inaccurate aspersion’s about the clubs alleged rule breaking.
No club is clean but the shit we have had to endure for competing for honours has been disgraceful.
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Haha. No. As a football fan I've read quite a bit about it. I'm not an expert though by any stretch.So basically you admitting you know fuck all about the CAS verdict
What I would say is that it's highly likely I don't know as much about it as some City fans.
Great post. I agree with every line.I think it's harsh to say the main superpower is being loaded. Of course I agree it's necessary given the inequality in the game. It's basically impossible for a non established club to consistently get further than say, where Brighton are now, without a sugar daddy.
But at the same time, United have consistently outsspent City in the last decade. If they'd been run properly, the way Liverpool were, we'd never have dominated to much. City are 11th now in the net spend over the last 5 years. Likewise Chelsea have hardly skimped, and Liverpool for all Klopp's "we can't compete" shtick are not far behind.
The main superpower has been alignment on strategy from top to bottom and consistent execution on that strategy. Gradually over time they've added better and better people (on and off the pitch) until they've ended up with a collection of extreme outlying talent like Guardiola, De Bruyne and Haaland. This isn't just spaffing cash: when top talent has wanted more money or playing time than City thought it was worth, they've consistently walked away. That's why Sterling is at Chelsea, Maguire and Fred are at United and Jesus and Zinchenko are at Arsenal.
It's lazy to just say "oh City just spend money" when your own club spaffed £100m up the wall on Lukaku. It just comes across as "oh it's not fair because we made an avoidable mistake"
But yeah you're not going to always get rational responses on here either, some people see conspiracy round every corner.
Just to be clear, my only point was in response to a poster here who said that City's model would work at any club regardless of investment, which I think is nonsense.I think it's harsh to say the main superpower is being loaded. Of course I agree it's necessary given the inequality in the game. It's basically impossible for a non established club to consistently get further than say, where Brighton are now, without a sugar daddy.
But at the same time, United have consistently outsspent City in the last decade. If they'd been run properly, the way Liverpool were, we'd never have dominated to much. City are 11th now in the net spend over the last 5 years. Likewise Chelsea have hardly skimped, and Liverpool for all Klopp's "we can't compete" shtick are not far behind.
The main superpower has been alignment on strategy from top to bottom and consistent execution on that strategy. Gradually over time they've added better and better people (on and off the pitch) until they've ended up with a collection of extreme outlying talent like Guardiola, De Bruyne and Haaland. This isn't just spaffing cash: when top talent has wanted more money or playing time than City thought it was worth, they've consistently walked away. That's why Sterling is at Chelsea, Maguire and Fred are at United and Jesus and Zinchenko are at Arsenal.
It's lazy to just say "oh City just spend money" when your own club spaffed £100m up the wall on Lukaku. It just comes across as "oh it's not fair because we made an avoidable mistake"
But yeah you're not going to always get rational responses on here either, some people see conspiracy round every corner.
City were completely exonerated by CAS. The time barred issues were irrelevant. I would advise not believing all you read in the press re City . Why continue to comment if you admit to no knowledge on the subject?Haha. No. As a football fan I've read quite a bit about it. I'm not an expert though by any stretch.
What I would say is that it's highly likely I don't know as much about it as some City fans.
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For the sake of clarity (and hopefully friendliness too) I'd also point out that I don't think Manchester City have likely done anything that a ton of other clubs have done also - probably every top club out there.
It's business. And sometimes business has to cut a few corners here and there.
The only reason I even mentioned the UEFA/FA stuff was that some here are insistent on proclaiming City as perfect in every way, which I'm sure you realise, even with your blue tinted glasses on, can't really be the reality.
If we could sort the ticket office out we’d be close to perfect :)
City were completely exonerated by CAS. The time barred issues were irrelevant. I would advise not believing all you read in the press re City . Why continue to comment if you admit to no knowledge on the subject?
I am only commenting because I keep getting called out!
I post here on the Chelsea page about Chelsea stuff. It seems that if make even the tiniest reference to City that is anything less than deferential it's an invitation for some here to pile in.
Jeez.
And where have I said I have no knowledge? I said I'm not an expert.
You don’t have to say it when you’re spouting shite tbhI am only commenting because I keep getting called out!
I post here on the Chelsea page about Chelsea stuff. It seems that if make even the tiniest reference to City that is anything less than deferential it's an invitation for some here to pile in.
Jeez.
And where have I said I have no knowledge? I said I'm not an expert.
So, enlighten me, if my understanding of the events in question are so inaccurate.You don’t have to say it when you’re spouting shite tbh
Where do I go to read impartial information for the sale of being better informed?
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