8 | Ilkay Gundogan - 2022/23

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If Gundogan has his mind on going into management, then he'd be better advised sticking around. Playing out his dog days in Spain or Italy might teach him more about those cultures- gelato is certainly better, but a full decade under Guardiola will teach him everything he needs to know about the game and, just as importantly, about how to evolve teams.
 
Yep! There's also the chance to repeat as European Champions, not many teams have done that and we have a great chance.

I was thinking about that last night. English opposition usually concerns me more than most European sides. Chelsea, Spurs and the dippers have done for us. But Arsenal, Newcastle and the rags wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Bayern will improve with Neuer back and Tuchel getting his system in place. Barca will be a question mark until their summer recruitment is finished but I wouldn't fear them. Real will be different but arguably in transition and nothing in Italy worries me, I'd imagine Napoli end up losing a few and declining. With PSG in turmoil we're in an excellent position now to dominate in Europe as we have done domestically.
 
He just put his name in history. If we do the same again or similar he could go down as captain of the greatest team ever.
 
Like most on here I really want him to stay but we need to be realistic. He’s 32 and he’s already said he’s not sure can keep up with pace of the Premier League week in week out.

I think our main priority is to get Foden established as our first choice in Gundo’s position and if Gundo is happy to stay and play less frequently even better.
 
If the plan was to release him all along then we could have at least signed Tielemans for free. This just feels like another move to make things easy for Barcelona.
Tielemens isn't the calibre of player we go after

The fact he was a freebie and he's going to Villa, no disrespect to them, even if the rest of the "top 6" aren't in great places is proof of his level
 
If the plan was to release him all along then we could have at least signed Tielemans for free. This just feels like another move to make things easy for Barcelona.
His contracts finished in what way does what we do make it easier for barcelona. It doesn't get easier.
 
His contracts finished in what way does what we do make it easier for barcelona. It doesn't get easier.
Correct. And technically / factually he is released from his contract from the club as it’s expired. If we want to keep him we will by offering him the longer contract we would all want in his position. The club player-data and medical staff will have had their input on his potential for ongoing longevity at top level.
If Gundo wants to leave on the highest high so be it, he’s a true legend.
 
Like most on here I really want him to stay but we need to be realistic. He’s 32 and he’s already said he’s not sure can keep up with pace of the Premier League week in week out.

I think our main priority is to get Foden established as our first choice in Gundo’s position and if Gundo is happy to stay and play less frequently even better.
As much as I'd hate to see him go I think you're right. We don't want to have to replace such an important player and position without Pep being here (if he decides to leave in a few years). I'd prefer we bought a young star (Wirtz, Gabri Vega, Bellingham or Mac Allister would have been great, etc) so Pep has time to get them to their potential before he leaves. The club may also prefer to keep him though, which I would be also happy with, sign a young star and transition over a few seasons.

Whatever Pep wants is good for me.
 
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