The Conservative Party

Fred_Quimby said:
Gove chickening out. He doesn’t think Johnson warrants the punishment so instead of voting against he will abstain. Just about sums up the guy.
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No surprise. He will have made the calculation that abstaining may prevent his deselection by rabid party members and also gives him an argument, albeit somewhat weak, that he is distancing himself from Johnson in the eyes of the slightly less rabid voters who still might vote conservative. Obviously doing the right thing and voting to support the the report will not even have been considered. Hopefully he won’t get deselected and will lose his seat because the majority of voters will see right through him.
 
These cunts would happily crash the housing market so they can pick up thousands of houses on the cheap and charge huge rents to make us live in them.

If only a party that don't have skin in the housing game would be bold enough to put the policy of people being able to live in affordable housing be it bought or rented rather than pander to their own needs (other parties have landlords as MPs as well as Tories) we might have something worth voting for that's beneficial to the majority.
 
Cannot be asked to look through tons of pages, so many apologies if it's already been mentioned, but a video has leaked of one of their parties in December 2020, while us ordinary citizens were locked indoors, couldn't see dying loved ones and had Christmas cancelled.

A photo from the party did leak not long after after the news emerged. Two of the people in the photo are seen dancing to The Pouges and downing wine, while one is also seen from the photo wearing Christmas braces.

This guy was given an OBE by Boris in his resignations list.
 
ShorehamCitizen said:
Cannot be asked to look through tons of pages, so many apologies if it's already been mentioned, but a video has leaked of one of their parties in December 2020, while us ordinary citizens were locked indoors, couldn't see dying loved ones and had Christmas cancelled.

A photo from the party did leak not long after after the news emerged. Two of the people in the photo are seen dancing to The Pouges and downing wine, while one is also seen from the photo wearing Christmas braces.

This guy was given an OBE by Boris in his resignations list.
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Probably for his party organising skills
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Sadly that is state we are in after the last 13 years and Brexit. Brexit really has screwed our growth.
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I wouldn't say the referendum vote did, but the Tories and their 13 years of austerity messed up growth instead. That lie-pedalled referendum didn't do much good though.

Switzerland, Iceland and Norway seem to do okay and they are not in the EU, while San Marino have never been in a trading bloc union, have never had deals with any of them and are the only country without a national debt.
 
Bit of a surprise that a draft (and apparently very much a draft) of the Cabinet Office Sue Grey report has ended up in the hands of the Telegraph.

Not that it makes a difference as the Cabinet Office have no say in the Acoba decision, as far as I know. Still convenient timing to offset the video and tomorrow's Johnson events.
 
ShorehamCitizen said:
I wouldn't say the referendum vote did, but the Tories and their 13 years of austerity messed up growth instead. That lie-pedalled referendum didn't do much good though.

Switzerland, Iceland and Norway seem to do okay and they are not in the EU, while San Marino have never been in a trading bloc union, have never had deals with any of them and are the only country without a national debt.
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Switzerland, Iceland and Norway all have much closer and more sensible relations with the EU. The Swiss and Norway are also incredibly rich, albeit for different reasons. If you're incredibly rich as a country, your life is much easier.

As for San Marino - that's really like comparing Hanley Castle Parish Council to Greater London. A different animal completely. Once again, it's an incredibly wealthy country.

You cannot possibly convert the UK into one of these states overnight. Or at all. In the case of Switzerland, they have not been involved in a war since medieval times, and they have never, ever appointed themselves to the role of Constable of the World. And that's just for starters.

You are right about austerity. It was a misconceived policy driven by a doctrinaire desire to shrink the state. It failed on its own terms as it did not sort out the economy. It did, however, make the rich much richer at the expense of the bottom 70% of the population. This in turn led to widespread discontent, and in their blind fury, 52% of those who could be arsed to vote voted for Brexit in the mistaken belief it would improve matters.

This was rather like terminating your RAC membership because your car had run out of petrol. Or burning down your factory to get a pay rise.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
The awful Guido Fawkes seems to have declared war on Bernard Jenkin - literally blue on blue.
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They are just burning each other alive now - damage control is not a thing any more they are losing and it seems they do not care by how many. Unbelievable - I know there has been talk of new right wing factions setting up by Tories who think they are not fascist enough I can see the more they do veer to the right the more moderate Tories at all level may set un "New Conservatives" to save their Party.
 
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