The Conservative Party

Cricket Blue said:
Absolutely crying out for another
political party in this country.
Conservatives have gone, I am dreading a labour government and Lib dems will never get in.
It's all very sad.
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So, a staunch Tory voter who feels that they cannot see anything better so now need a Tory of a different name to vote for.

Just a little wake-up for you, it’s the fucking Tories who got us here, no fucker else.
 
Cunts have bankrupt the country and will continue to push us into recession and depression before being ousted and leave the shitshow to others to try and sort out.

Austerity was a choice with the cutting of services deeply impacting the country. They continue to choose policies that take money from those who cannot afford it and give to the richer. Profiteering is very much wanted by them with inflation, caused not by demand, but supply, ensuring funds are stolen from the working class and passed to all those at the top who have the affluence of stocks and shares, who also park their riches offshore to ensure no real tax is paid back on it.

Anybody who supports this Tory steal is an absolute wanker in my opinion and those who are benefitting need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
 
halfmist said:
100% agree. What I find amusing is that the left want others to pay a lot more percentage wise but if they were asked to pay more, oh no I can’t afford to. Also the Governments of all persuasions are not very good with spending other people’s money.
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We have the highest taxes since whenever are you’re worried about a centrist Labour government putting taxes up?

Absolute gobsmacking.
 
Tory rags so grateful that a submersible has gone missing - the Titanic element to the story just adds to the reason to major on it

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bluethrunthru said:
Tory rags so grateful that a submersible has gone missing - the Titanic element to the story just adds to the reason to major on it

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Just shows that they are not reporters or journalists.

Influencers are us.
 
halfmist said:
100% agree. What I find amusing is that the left want others to pay a lot more percentage wise but if they were asked to pay more, oh no I can’t afford to. Also the Governments of all persuasions are not very good with spending other people’s money.
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wow thats an amazing conclusion - since the days of Osborne the UK tax burden has steadily risen to - under Sunaks plans - the highest in 70 years. In that time its been widely accepted that austerity took place and public services - NHS - Law and Order and so on were starved of cash - the national debt has gone from £1,011bn when Labour left office to £1.8tn under the Tories so fuck knows where all the money saved in austerity has gone ( servicing debt as it grew is my guess ) interest rates thru the roof - stagnating economy - poor are poorer - food bank use through the roof - all the product of 13 years of Tory Govt. But yeah Labour would ruin all that if they got in..............
 
bluethrunthru said:
wow thats an amazing conclusion - since the days of Osborne the UK tax burden has steadily risen to - under Sunaks plans - the highest in 70 years. In that time its been widely accepted that austerity took place and public services - NHS - Law and Order and so on were starved of cash - the national debt has gone from £1,011bn when Labour left office to £1.8tn under the Tories so fuck knows where all the money saved in austerity has gone ( servicing debt as it grew is my guess ) interest rates thru the roof - stagnating economy - poor are poorer - food bank use through the roof - all the product of 13 years of Tory Govt. But yeah Labour would ruin all that if they got in..............
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I’ve just realised that you need to leave HM alone as he is worried that his dividends may be affected under a centrist government. Obviously not seen what Labour are about these days and how the money sector are seeing them.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Sorry if I missed the point which bit wasn’t true? I’ve spent to long on here today and Thatcher raises all sorts of opinions in me especially the miners strike but she was strong on the Falklands
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No worries mate. The part where you said

“Without a functioning NHS there is no one left to create the wealth”

The US healthcare is something we often deride here, the NHS it certainly is not, and yet they still generate increasing wealth. So we don’t need an NHS to generate wealth - although we do if we want to have distributed wealth (which we don’t have but probably better distribution than the US). To generate wealth you just need those wealth generators (or net contributors to society) to access healthcare which is not a majority portion of our population.
 
halfmist said:
100% agree. What I find amusing is that the left want others to pay a lot more percentage wise but if they were asked to pay more, oh no I can’t afford to. Also the Governments of all persuasions are not very good with spending other people’s money.
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You can tax me more if you want. I can afford it.

So can you I suspect.

Progressive taxes are brilliant. But build your own library and roads if you want.
 
So much blue on blue action today - Cameron when pressured on Covid preparedness in the NHS effectively said "we had a plan for the NHS but the Health Sec - Hunt - vetoed it coz it was too expensive. Hunts appearance before the hearing will be gold - he is the current CoE and he cannot have that slur on his record without retaliation.

Meanwhile in the HoC tonight the PM and nearly 300 MP's absent themselves from the Johnson vote ......... spineless - off to google what the collective noun for jellyfish is

Edit - I read its a smack lol
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
So, a staunch Tory voter who feels that they cannot see anything better so now need a Tory of a different name to vote for.

Just a little wake-up for you, it’s the fucking Tories who got us here, no fucker else.
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Who are you Mystic Meg?
I haven't voted for several years but hey you know so much about me and I vote for. As you were.............
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
We have the highest taxes since whenever are you’re worried about a centrist Labour government putting taxes up?

Absolute gobsmacking.
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Starmer may be centrist but if you called Miss Tory Scum, his deputy, a centrist, stand well back.
The left within the party are lying low at the moment fearful of scaring the public with the type of rhetoric sometimes heard on here but will resurface with spending demands after the next election.
Just with the Public Sector alone, do you honestly think they are going to accept pay moderation under Labour. They will be demanding catch up.
Corbyn’s money tree was killed off at the last election so their wish list will have to be paid for by both higher taxes and higher spending which is bad news for borrowers.
 
Vic said:
You can tax me more if you want. I can afford it.

So can you I suspect.

Progressive taxes are brilliant. But build your own library and roads if you want.
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The whole way the tax system was set up under all Governments makes taxes for some , almost voluntary unless you’re a poor bugger on PAYE. Tax avoidance and evasion is rife so those need sorting out before going asking Joe Public for more of their hard earned.
End payments in cash, remove tax incentives and require submission of all accounting records for scrutiny by properly trained HMRC staff would make “ customers” think twice before evading.
 
bluethrunthru said:
wow thats an amazing conclusion - since the days of Osborne the UK tax burden has steadily risen to - under Sunaks plans - the highest in 70 years. In that time its been widely accepted that austerity took place and public services - NHS - Law and Order and so on were starved of cash - the national debt has gone from £1,011bn when Labour left office to £1.8tn under the Tories so fuck knows where all the money saved in austerity has gone ( servicing debt as it grew is my guess ) interest rates thru the roof - stagnating economy - poor are poorer - food bank use through the roof - all the product of 13 years of Tory Govt. But yeah Labour would ruin all that if they got in..............
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It’s where we are in the here and now.
If Labour get in to power, I assume we all agree they are going to be more interventionist and they have a wish list to pay for, plus above inflation pay demands by Public Sector employees in order to catch up.
It will all have to be paid for through higher taxes
 
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