Declan Rice

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Not arsed we didnt get him and I dont think Txkiki/Pep are either. Just dont see where he fits if we have everyone fit and were not forking out 100m on a back up.

Arsenal have vastly overpaid for him. He'll do well there as there arent that many good DM on the market but we happen to have the best on in the world and I have hopes Phillips has a good pre season and gets his feet.
 
I think he will be scrutinised - most expensive English player. Maybe not with the vitriol Grealish got, but to be slightly fair to the media Grealish was getting stick on here as well.

I don't think there was anyone on here getting giddy about him though, but I might have missed some pages.
 
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halfcenturyup said:
I suppose we will see this year. Not convinced, personally.

Maybe that's unfair because I am spoilt with Guardiola. Let's see.
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We are spoilt with Pep but other managers are really good too and it seems very clear that Arteta is one of them. Remember, when Pep leaves we will get another guy on who I am 99% sure won't be as good as Pep, because he's the best
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
It's not desperation tho is it ? Doyle is already a city player ,you have to think Doyle would offer far more than Phillips? Yet people think he should be given another chance ,we were prepared to offer £90m for Rice as rodders stand in ,couldn't Doyle do that in league cups ,fa cups etc ?
Phillips wasn't trusted to play 10 mins in games at 3.0 up or against Sheffield utd ,and I'm desperate to suggest Doyle mat be an option ?
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Suggesting is different To making statements using ‘need’. Passion is not enough, and it should be a given. So Doyle should be judged purely on ability and if he falls short because someone is better than him then that player needs to be brought in. No loyalty or sympathy for players, they are just commodities. They get paid and they move on whereas us supporters stay and endure. Is Doyle good enough to hold a place in the best team in the world- yes or no?
 
Blue and true said:
Phillips is lower half Prem/Championship level.
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Phillips is an overrated English footballer. It’s not his fault,it’s an English disease. He just isn’t technically good enough to play in the best team in the world - fact! He was bought (slightly desperately) to cover injury to Rodri. Had that happened we wouldn’t have won anything last season imo. Now that Kovacic (who does have the ability) has come in, Phillips won’t get a look in again.
He should move to a mid table project where he’ll stand out and get first team football; Villa, west ham, spurs, Brighton that sort.
I have no doubt that City would have got Rice if Phillips would have been included, and Rice would have been a good fit. Clearly Phillips is happy to lounge with us on a fat salary but it suits no one.
 
Any1aBlue said:
Suggesting is different To making statements using ‘need’. Passion is not enough, and it should be a given. So Doyle should be judged purely on ability and if he falls short because someone is better than him then that player needs to be brought in. No loyalty or sympathy for players, they are just commodities. They get paid and they move on whereas us supporters stay and endure. Is Doyle good enough to hold a place in the best team in the world- yes or no?
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He's probably at the same standard as Phillips,so if that's the case and no money involved let Pep make the call in training .is Declan rice an elite player ? Not in my book
 
But it’s not a choice between Rice and Doyle since rice is going to another club. Although I do think under Guardiola, Rice had the potential to be ‘elite’ and be another stones.
It’s also not a choice between Phillips and Doyle imo as neither are good enough. They just aren’t - inspite of the passion they might exude.
There’s no room for sentiment. Are they good enough for the best team in the world - no, they are not. Bin them both and accept Kovacic will cover us this season and next summer there’ll be another elite player available.
 
argyle said:
I know on this forum that our academy kids such as Doyle and McAtee are future Balon D'or winners but it's a huge step from the Championship to the Premier League - and an even bigger step up from good PL sides to us.
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Yeah I get that. I s'ppose if they are up to it at the moment they will get in next seasons City squad and if not they won't. No harm in bigging them up though in my own head. You never know...they may spend pre season with City and do a Foden, Palmer or Lewis.
 
jrb said:
Probably already been posted, but if anyone hasn't seen it?

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This was a strange affair. Broad outlines of these shows are discussed beforehand, so something so inane need not have been said. Of course, she and the rest are paid to sound inane. It is true and reasonable to say City have a red line, and other clubs in the heat of the battle raise the transfer fees and salaries too high. Something so conspiratorial, sadly, is the way things go nowadays.
 
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