PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[oxopop]

The YouTube video was one part of an organised and coordinated "exclusive" which also comprised two articles in The Times and a Piers Morgan show that were all launched over a couple of days or so for maximum exposure. They all flopped entirely because they just regurgitated stuff that came up in 2014(?) about the Abu Dhabi sponsorships that has since been debunked. Someone paid for all of that little lot by the way although who is the £115million question?

I'm not sure that work colleagues winding you up counts as a "ramping up" BTW.

Thanks for the clarification on the upload. You are correct regarding work colleagues, more winding up than ramping up. I simply remind them of our achievements over the last decade.

 

[JASR]

The media is quick to ignore the decades of damage by Swales to City whilst giving a free pass to the Glazers. Window dressinig?

The glazers have supported and seen success at united throughout their tenure.

The lowest united have been in the PL since they took over is 7th during the Moysiah reign.
They have spent more on players than any other club in the last 10 years.
They have won plenty of trophies during their tenure.

There is no way that their tenure can be described as failure, or compared to the Swales years of City.

City were relegated under Swales.
City had a pretty bizarre buying/selling regime under Swales.
City won a single trophy under Swales.
City ‘updated’ their ground, causing a reduction in capacity under Swales.
I’m sure the list is endless…

The only part of the Glazers tenure that can be described as ‘bad’, compared to Swales, is the complete lack of infrastructure investment.

 

[Centurions]

The glazers have supported and seen success at united throughout their tenure.

The lowest united have been in the PL since they took over is 7th during the Moysiah reign.
They have spent more on players than any other club in the last 10 years.
They have won plenty of trophies during their tenure.

There is no way that their tenure can be described as failure, or compared to the Swales years of City.

City were relegated under Swales.
City had a pretty bizarre buying/selling regime under Swales.
City won a single trophy under Swales.
City ‘updated’ their ground, causing a reduction in capacity under Swales.
I’m sure the list is endless…

The only part of the Glazers tenure that can be described as ‘bad’, compared to Swales, is the complete lack of infrastructure investment.

If I was a fan I might be wondering about the lack of a cohesive plan on the footballing side as regards transfers and managers but agree otherwise, comparing Swales and the Glazers is just silly.

Lol at Moysiah, I've not seen that one before and calling the buying/selling regime under Swales is a masterful study in understatement :(

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Apologies in advance but have i missed something recently?

Yes. We won the treble last month.

 

[Father Paul]

I just hope and pray that if. And when we get cleared, it’s on a weekend when it breaks. I want to spend the whole day on the couch popcorn in hand. Watching those fuckers on sky sports news crying and wailing how we’ve gotten away with it. I want to see the pain in their faces! Cnuts!

That would be nice.
Personally I just want to see an end to the whole thing. It really is dragging on at this stage and we need closure. It can't be helping our transfer business either and general strategy and planning for the future. If we have to take a harsh dose of medicine then so be it. We need to move on from this one way or the other.

 

[dadnlad]

That would be nice.
Personally I just want to see an end to the whole thing. It really is dragging on at this stage and we need closure. It can't be helping our transfer business either and general strategy and planning for the future. If we have to take a harsh dose of medicine then so be it. We need to move on from this one way or the other.

come on rags getting FFP fine has shown what a farce it all is
A cheat is a CHEAT keep telling them

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

That would be nice.
Personally I just want to see an end to the whole thing. It really is dragging on at this stage and we need closure. It can't be helping our transfer business either and general strategy and planning for the future. If we have to take a harsh dose of medicine then so be it. We need to move on from this one way or the other.

I dont see any impact to transfers tbh.

But do you think we might have been corrupt? Im personally not confident we WILL win the case but on the face of it the whole thing seems like a sham.

 

[Father Paul]

I dont see any impact to transfers tbh.

But do you think we might have been corrupt? Im personally not confident we WILL win the case but on the face of it the whole thing seems like a sham.

The impact on transfers is hard to measure but has to be a factor particularly if we are in a race to sign a player.
I have studied the evidence presented on here for years now and believe we may have cause for concern in a couple of areas.
The point I was trying to make is that we need to find out if we are facing any severe punishment as soon as possible.
We willed be deemed guilty in the public eye regardless of the findings.
My understanding is that we cannot appeal the decision but we can appeal the punishment should we consider it too severe

 

[Prophet of Doom]

The impact on transfers is hard to measure but has to be a factor particularly if we are in a race to sign a player.
I have studied the evidence presented on here for years now and believe we may have cause for concern in a couple of areas.
The point I was trying to make is that we need to find out if we are facing any severe punishment as soon as possible.
We willed be deemed guilty in the public eye regardless of the findings.
My understanding is that we cannot appeal the decision but we can appeal the punishment should we consider it too severe

If you have studied evidence on here for years then you should know that there is no quick fix.

Ridiculous to say we need to find out what the punishment is now. It will follow the full process and it will take years. IF we are found guilty then let’s see then - but nobody at City is concerned at the moment.

And any ideas that it’s stopping players signing is garbage. We’ve lost out on plenty of players in recent seasons - mainly due to financial or geographical reasons so there is no need for arses flapping.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

I have studied the evidence presented on here for years now and believe we may have cause for concern in a couple of areas.

Can you elaborate on that please? I'd just be interested to hear what you think we have cause for concern on and why, based on the evidence you've read on here.

I think it's good for any KFA such as myself to get viewpoints from all angles. Most on here (including me) will point to or believe in our innocence, most other fans point to our guilt, but it's always interesting to hear from the other clubs fans who think we're innocent and blues who think the opposite - those who go against the grain.

 

[makinghistory]

“Won TWO trebles, you’ll never sing that”

Hey I started that idea on BMF ! Thief :)

 

[applecentral]

Disgusting really when we haven't been thru due process and anyone with any knowledge and ability to analyse that knowledge would know that the charges are ill-founded. The comfort is that it's not stopping us and all we see is more and more desperation from our rivals. The mis-information and erroneous comments used to annoy and hurt me - but now I've seen enough from the club and the whole City family to know that we will prevail.

I like your post a lot. You just cheered me up!

 

[Dinas]

I like your post a lot. You just cheered me up!

Well that makes me good as well. Thank you.

 

[Grassland Blue]

The impact on transfers is hard to measure but has to be a factor particularly if we are in a race to sign a player.
I have studied the evidence presented on here for years now and believe we may have cause for concern in a couple of areas.
The point I was trying to make is that we need to find out if we are facing any severe punishment as soon as possible.
We willed be deemed guilty in the public eye regardless of the findings.
My understanding is that we cannot appeal the decision but we can appeal the punishment should we consider it too severe

How can an organisation that employs top accounting firms and some of the best legal minds in the country/world, headed up by a Royal entity be in such a predicament?
The media have whipped up a frenzy of accusations (with little foundation in reality imo), this is the reason why.
When this is all over, (hopefully very quickly), I think that City will be exonerated.
The agitators should then be obliged to make grovelling apologies, splashed all over the front and back pages of their abhorrent publications, all commencing on the same day AND continuing for 30 days afterwards.
Damage them the way they have tried to damage us!
All I want to see is fairness and justice and then get back to playing football.

 

[Keeper!]

The impact on transfers is hard to measure but has to be a factor particularly if we are in a race to sign a player.
I have studied the evidence presented on here for years now and believe we may have cause for concern in a couple of areas.
The point I was trying to make is that we need to find out if we are facing any severe punishment as soon as possible.
We willed be deemed guilty in the public eye regardless of the findings.
My understanding is that we cannot appeal the decision but we can appeal the punishment should we consider it too severe

It's had zero impact on transfers , I originally thought it did have an impact on sponsorship but I am pleased to say it clearly is not an issue with the deals we have signed in the last 6 months.

The PL was pressured by the red shirts to press these charges to further damage our "brand", and it has failed at every level and I would say it's had the opposite effect.

The charges galvanised every single person associated with the club from top to bottom, resulting in a historic treble.

Even the media campaign in the UK is failing and people outside the club are seeing through that, the campaign against us has been a disaster for the red shirts but that should be of no surprise when you see the state of those said clubs.

 

[Father Paul]

If you have studied evidence on here for years then you should know that there is no quick fix.

Ridiculous to say we need to find out what the punishment is now. It will follow the full process and it will take years. IF we are found guilty then let’s see then - but nobody at City is concerned at the moment.

And any ideas that it’s stopping players signing is garbage. We’ve lost out on plenty of players in recent seasons - mainly due to financial or geographical reasons so there is no need for arses flapping.

I believe that it is in everyone's best interests to get this thing sorted as soon as possible I am not looking for a quick fix this has gone on for years. You seem to think everything is OK because the process is inching forward and management is as you put it is unconcerned..
If you think that this is not interfering with future plans all well and good but I can't see how it is in any way a positive.
Likewise I don't think it is stopping players signing but it may be used as an argument by rivals. This was probably one of a number of factors which was at play in the Bellingham case. It is a well established fact that some players will only sign if CL football is on offer.
A large points deduction or even relegation could put us out of Europe for a year or two. That Mr. prophet of doom is not garbage.

 

[Father Paul]

Can you elaborate on that please? I'd just be interested to hear what you think we have cause for concern on and why, based on the evidence you've read on here.

I think it's good for any KFA such as myself to get viewpoints from all angles. Most on here (including me) will point to or believe in our innocence, most other fans point to our guilt, but it's always interesting to hear from the other clubs fans who think we're innocent and blues who think the opposite - those who go against the grain.

How can an organisation that employs top accounting firms and some of the best legal minds in the country/world, headed up by a Royal entity be in such a predicament?
The media have whipped up a frenzy of accusations (with little foundation in reality imo), this is the reason why.
When this is all over, (hopefully very quickly), I think that City will be exonerated.
The agitators should then be obliged to make grovelling apologies, splashed all over the front and back pages of their abhorrent publications, all commencing on the same day AND continuing for 30 days afterwards.
Damage them the way they have tried to damage us!
All I want to see is fairness and justice and then get back to playing football.

I don't disagree with any of that.

 

[Father Paul]

It's had zero impact on transfers , I originally thought it did have an impact on sponsorship but I am pleased to say it clearly is not an issue with the deals we have signed in the last 6 months.

The PL was pressured by the red shirts to press these charges to further damage our "brand", and it has failed at every level and I would say it's had the opposite effect.

The charges galvanised every single person associated with the club from top to bottom, resulting in a historic treble.

Even the media campaign in the UK is failing and people outside the club are seeing through that, the campaign against us has been a disaster for the red shirts but that should be of no surprise when you see the state of those said clubs.

How do you know it has not or will not in the future impact transfers? The charges were made in February.Yes your right they most certainly lit a fuse which was great but they still pose a danger.Now hopefully they will come to nought. But in theory we are looking at very serious penalties including large point deductions and possibly relegation. Now I hope that won't happen but if it does it will for a season or two impact upon our transfer strategy.

 

[malg]

How can an organisation that employs top accounting firms and some of the best legal minds in the country/world, headed up by a Royal entity be in such a predicament?
The media have whipped up a frenzy of accusations (with little foundation in reality imo), this is the reason why.
When this is all over, (hopefully very quickly), I think that City will be exonerated.
The agitators should then be obliged to make grovelling apologies, splashed all over the front and back pages of their abhorrent publications, all commencing on the same day AND continuing for 30 days afterwards.
Damage them the way they have tried to damage us!
All I want to see is fairness and justice and then get back to playing football.

It'll be interesting to see what comes of it all. However, just because we employ a top accountancy firm doesn't mean the books are fine. All those huge firms in the US who failed had some of the big 4 accountancy firms looking after their books. The accountancy firms are as bent as some of the firms they represent.

Anyway, the sooner it gets done the better. It appears to have lost traction with the media (I think) as they're bored as well.

 

[CC1]

I believe that it is in everyone's best interests to get this thing sorted as soon as possible I am not looking for a quick fix this has gone on for years. You seem to think everything is OK because the process is inching forward and management is as you put it is unconcerned..
If you think that this is not interfering with future plans all well and good but I can't see how it is in any way a positive.
Likewise I don't think it is stopping players signing but it may be used as an argument by rivals. This was probably one of a number of factors which was at play in the Bellingham case. It is a well established fact that some players will only sign if CL football is on offer.
A large points deduction or even relegation could put us out of Europe for a year or two. That Mr. prophet of doom is not garbage.

You’re making all this up - leave it to the experts that City have employed. Pointless speculation