The unasked question is "Do you think all migrants should stop in the first safe country they come to?".
"Would you think that if you were a politician in Italy, Spain or Greece?"
"Would you think that if the UK had a border with an unsafe country?"
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The unasked question is "Do you think all migrants should stop in the first safe country they come to?".
"Would you think that if you were a politician in Italy, Spain or Greece?"
"Would you think that if the UK had a border with an unsafe country?"
More levelling up...
Research by the Special Interest Group of Municipal Authorities (SIGOMA) has revealed that between 2010/11 and 2023/24, the 10% of local authorities with the highest levels of deprivation faced funding cuts averaging 28.3% - while the 10% of councils with the lowest levels of deprivation faced funding cuts averaging 10.1%. Cllr Sir Steve Houghton, leader of Barnsley Council and chair of SIGOMA, warns that the "gap between the rich and the poor is getting wider", while the Government has reneged on a promise to reallocate business rates. "It looks like a political decision to support areas that are better off as opposed to areas that are worse off", he said, "In terms of levelling up, it's exactly the opposite, it's levelling poor areas down as they are not getting the funding they would have done."
Research by the Special Interest Group of Municipal Authorities (SIGOMA) has revealed that between 2010/11 and 2023/24, the 10% of local authorities with the highest levels of deprivation faced funding cuts averaging 28.3% - while the 10% of councils with the lowest levels of deprivation faced funding cuts averaging 10.1%. Cllr Sir Steve Houghton, leader of Barnsley Council and chair of SIGOMA, warns that the "gap between the rich and the poor is getting wider", while the Government has reneged on a promise to reallocate business rates. "It looks like a political decision to support areas that are better off as opposed to areas that are worse off", he said, "In terms of levelling up, it's exactly the opposite, it's levelling poor areas down as they are not getting the funding they would have done."
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No shit Sherlock.More levelling up...
Research by the Special Interest Group of Municipal Authorities (SIGOMA) has revealed that between 2010/11 and 2023/24, the 10% of local authorities with the highest levels of deprivation faced funding cuts averaging 28.3% - while the 10% of councils with the lowest levels of deprivation faced funding cuts averaging 10.1%. Cllr Sir Steve Houghton, leader of Barnsley Council and chair of SIGOMA, warns that the "gap between the rich and the poor is getting wider", while the Government has reneged on a promise to reallocate business rates. "It looks like a political decision to support areas that are better off as opposed to areas that are worse off", he said, "In terms of levelling up, it's exactly the opposite, it's levelling poor areas down as they are not getting the funding they would have done."
Ifwecouldjust.......
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More red meat to their base
More red meat to their base
Something Labour have already said they will keep.
Where do we put asylum applicants whilst they are going through the process?
Genuine question btw if you have better alternatives?
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Something Labour have already said they will keep.
Where do we put asylum applicants whilst they are going through the process?
Genuine question btw if you have better alternatives?
It's 500 people though, more than that arrive in a single day sometimes.
Would need about another 100 barges to clear the backlog.
It's 500 people though, more than that arrive in a single day sometimes.
Would need about another 100 barges to clear the backlog.
It’s 500 in a safe environment, not on the streets.
If you have a better idea as to where we house these people whilst going through the process I’m all ears?
You do have a better idea don’t you?
bluethrunthru
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It's 500 people though, more than that arrive in a single day sometimes.
Would need about another 100 barges to clear the backlog.
Thats not clearing the backlog though is it? Thats just putting people somewhere else than a hotel. Clearing the backlog means dealing with asylum cases and that is something they have just passed legislation that says they will not do any of that at all. So in theory the year is 2150 and the Tory Govt has just commissioned its one millionth barge to house migrants at a total cost of £2bn per day ....... but still the Travelodge at Tamworth has no migrants in it but on the flipside it closed down 15 years ago due to lack of income.
How about hiring the staff to do the work that's required to reduce the backlog as opposed to pulling bullshit stunts that are only there to keep people arguing on twitter? Simple basic competence, but I appreciate that's asking an enormous amount of this current government.It’s 500 in a safe environment, not on the streets.
If you have a better idea as to where we house these people whilst going through the process I’m all ears?
You do have a better idea don’t you?
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It’s 500 in a safe environment, not on the streets.
If you have a better idea as to where we house these people whilst going through the process I’m all ears?
You do have a better idea don’t you?
I wasn't arguing that point.
Of course Hotels are costly and unsustainable in the long run, It's just frustrating how the Tories have handled all this. They've had 13 years in power and made the process slower and longer.
Fred_Quimby
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Yes, I do. Why not process 500 people a day? OK a bit extreme but maybe 100-200 a day?? Not the staff because of government cuts but can afford £5m a day for hotels!!It’s 500 in a safe environment, not on the streets.
If you have a better idea as to where we house these people whilst going through the process I’m all ears?
You do have a better idea don’t you?
How about hiring the staff to do the work that's required to reduce the backlog as opposed to pulling bullshit stunts that are only there to keep people arguing on twitter? Simple basic competence, but I appreciate that's asking an enormous amount of this current government.
No issue with that but they need to be housed whilst the process is ongoing.
If it’s not in mass accommodation like this for single males then where?
I wasn't arguing that point.
Of course Hotels are costly and unsustainable in the long run, It's just frustrating how the Tories have handled all this. They've had 13 years in power and made the process slower and longer.
I was replying to a poster who is obviously not happy with the barge being used.
I absolutely agree the process needs to be much quicker and the government needs to pull their fingers out.
It's the silly season and the Tories are feeding a fascist idea a day to the media.How about hiring the staff to do the work that's required to reduce the backlog as opposed to pulling bullshit stunts that are only there to keep people arguing on twitter? Simple basic competence, but I appreciate that's asking an enormous amount of this current government.
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How much did that barge cost? I ask as a Tory spokesperson could not say how much it cost this morning but assured us that it was cheaper than other forms of accommodation. How could he confirm that if he wasn’t given the detail. Just another talking head doing as he is told.
Also, heard yesterday that processing claims has dropped by 75% since 2021, almost as if this is by design.
Also, heard yesterday that processing claims has dropped by 75% since 2021, almost as if this is by design.
bluethrunthru
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How much did that barge cost? I ask as a Tory spokesperson could not say how much it cost this morning but assured us that it was cheaper than other forms of accommodation. How could he confirm that if he wasn’t given the detail. Just another talking head doing as he is told.
Also, heard yesterday that processing claims has dropped by 75% since 2021, almost as if this is by design.
They send 35 but only 15 go on the Bibby Stockholm. The threat is they will withdraw Govt funding from them - great idea and won't lead to shoplifting and robbery in Weymouth at all. Oh and they did it all on a coach that didn't have a valid MOT. Fucking clown show
I got that, the main point i was making is the barge is bullshit. It's not there to solve any problems, it's there to get people arguing about it, and it's worked. This is the shittest government we have ever had. They don't want to govern, they just want people arguing on twitter whilst they keep acting like cunts.I was replying to a poster who is obviously not happy with the barge being used.
I absolutely agree the process needs to be much quicker and the government needs to pull their fingers out.
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It’s not safe for 500.It’s 500 in a safe environment, not on the streets.
If you have a better idea as to where we house these people whilst going through the process I’m all ears?
You do have a better idea don’t you?
The fire service have refused to certificate it for that capacity.
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Something Labour have already said they will keep.
Where do we put asylum applicants whilst they are going through the process?
Genuine question btw if you have better alternatives?
I imagine we can house them where we have housed them previously, or just process them faster if we are running out of room. It isn’t a difficult problem unless we make it difficult which of course we absolutely are doing.
On a separate note, why do people fall for these publicity stunts like barges or remote Islands or Narnia or wherever? What’s the appeal? Genuine question.
I imagine we can house them where we have housed them previously, or just process them faster if we are running out of room. It isn’t a difficult problem unless we make it difficult which of course we absolutely are doing.
On a separate note, why do people fall for these publicity stunts like barges or remote Islands or Narnia or wherever? What’s the appeal? Genuine question.
Hotels are also a massive issue so not the answer.
Yes we need to speed up the process but in the meantime these people need to be housed by whatever means possible and the barge, whilst not ideal is at least a solution.