The Conservative Party

Postman Pep said:
Simple question for you. Did Kinnock, similar to the Tory, draw a direct link between the cost of the hotels and funding for public services?
You can apply whatever context you like. The point is so can others.
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The only context I need to apply is the rest of the interview.

He starts by saying the Tories' incompetence and neglect have destroyed the asylum system. He criticises the fact that asylum seekers have to be housed in unsuitable accommodation and says that Labour's priority will be to deal with claims as fast as possible and get people out of hotels and barges. Only at that point does he say this will save money that could be used for the NHS.

Whoever clipped the video and edited it with the Tory words knew this was misleading. It's GBNews level nonsense which feeds into the 'all politicians are the same' narrative.

That's exactly what the Tories want.
 
bluenova said:
The only context I need to apply is the rest of the interview.

He starts by saying the Tories' incompetence and neglect have destroyed the asylum system. He criticises the fact that asylum seekers have to be housed in unsuitable accommodation and says that Labour's priority will be to deal with claims as fast as possible and get people out of hotels and barges. Only at that point does he say this will save money that could be used for the NHS.

Whoever clipped the video and edited it with the Tory words knew this was misleading. It's GBNews level nonsense which feeds into the 'all politicians are the same' narrative.

That's exactly what the Tories want.
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I’ve been listening to and reading “the secret history of…” it’s a series of books by Thom Hartmann, it covers big tech, the Supreme Court, oligarchy etc etc it’s basically a history of how big business has corrupted politics for their own ends since the framing of the American Constitutio. Policy is pretty much 100% in contradiction to the wants of the lower 99%. Part of the subversion is bombarding Democrats with messages “they are all the same” in order to suppress voters with Democratic leanings. GB news, the BBC, the Mail etc etc do the same in this country to suppress left leaning voters. The expenses scandal reporting was a Telegraph initiative to make the general public believe all politicians are corrupt, knowing full well the core right wing vote always turns out.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Can anyone who's going to vote tory now give me a geniune reason to do so. How will a vote for them benefit you?
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Similar questions have been asked many times before on here, to ask them to justify policies or why they would vote for them again. I’m afraid not a single person will respond. It’s like they have no just reason to do it. They… just do it.
 
The best reason to vote Tory is that you hate foreigners of all descriptions.
The second is, if you are a tax fiddler, you know they will never crack down on it.

A lot of people are impressed by their rhetoric—just that. Not everyone has a deep, inquiring mind. They like 'straightforward' talk. So when 30p Lee says refugees should fuck off to France, it hits a chord. For it's how they tend to think. Similarly, any criticism of the state of the country is met with 'If you don't like it here, fuck off to the EU.' That they themselves ended that option for most people does not occur to them. It is a matter of faith that 'anyone with anyone about them' is still free to emigrate to any country they choose.
 
babyape said:
Similar questions have been asked many times before on here, to ask them to justify policies or why they would vote for them again. I’m afraid not a single person will respond. It’s like they have no just reason to do it. They… just do it.
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It's cult of cunts.

They are as detached from reality as Heaven's Gate but without the cool uniforms.
 
TinFoilHat said:
If a Labour/SNP MP did a tv interview where they told someone or something to fuck off on a tv interview. BBC/Sky would be calling for their resignation.
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Downing Street has said that Justice Secretary Alex Chalk was "speaking on behalf of the Government" when he backed Conservative Party deputy chair Lee Anderson, who faced criticism after saying that asylum seekers unwilling to move to the Bibby Stockholm should "f*** off back to France".
 
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